"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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My Name is Nobody said:
I just saw her at work. She looks PISSED. I am avoiding her at all costs. I don't care about the movies I'll pay for them because I have no desire to communicate with her. If she is decent she will bring it up.
And the lesson here guys is.......Never date someone who you work with. It almost always never ends well.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Paradox said:
And the lesson here guys is.......Never date someone who you work with. It almost always never ends well.
It's fine. We are both mature enough to not let it affect work. But I can see it would be a big problem if I was AFC and "in love" with her or something like that.
 

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But I can see it would be a big problem if I was AFC and "in love" with her or something like that.
Here's the bigger view: Most dating relationships don't pan out, so when they don't, you're still left having to face the other person every day. At best, that's just awkward, but even if you're not an AFC, being how the female may not like you anymore, she may...

spread bad gossip about you
claim you harass her
turn others against you
be your boss someday
influence your boss someday
sabotage your career
 
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Thats true but I did nothing but treat her right and be nice to her so I am not worried about that.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Thats true but I did nothing but treat her right and be nice to her so I am not worried about that.
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I just saw her at work. She looks PISSED. I am avoiding her at all costs.

Ummm nevermind.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Paradox said:
Ummm nevermind.
Yes she looks pissed but I don't think she's pissed at me. She didn't even see me today I just saw her from far away. She is being unusually quiet too. She's not the type to start rumors I think. Why would she be angry at me?
 

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Maybe she's got cramps. Don't try to guess her mood by her facial expressions.

In her mind, you did something, real or imagined, that made her real angry, angry enough to kick you out. Now, she may be unable to handle her luggage, and maybe you didn't do anything atrocious, but to her, you're the bad guy and it's real to her. That's why she may be looking pissed. But like I said, we don't know. We don't want to know.

Wow, look at all the drama you would've been spared if you really did go NC.

Anyway, just be cool.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Is no woman at all better than dealing with this woman? I sent the email that's the last she will hear from me I'm just trying to push her buttons see if she replies at all.

I no longer see this woman as a possible girlfriend but if she had me over on new years eve french kissing when the ball dropped there still has to be a chance to have some sex.
You are one of the BIGGEST AFCs I have seen in this place. Dude...she threw you out of the door DRUNK. You could have gotten robbed or a DUI. And you still trying to contact her or talking with her? Are you THAT desperate for attention? Do you have a snatch between your legs?

What's wrong with you?
 
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You are one of the BIGGEST AFCs I have seen in this place. Dude...she threw you out of the door DRUNK. You could have gotten robbed or a DUI. And you still trying to contact her or talking with her? Are you THAT desperate for attention? Do you have a snatch between your legs?

What's wrong with you?
Who the hell says I am trying to talk to her? I have NOT talked to her since the incident and I don't plan to unless it's to get my stuff back. If she apologizes I will consider it if she makes it up to me.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Who the hell says I am trying to talk to her? I have NOT talked to her since the incident and I don't plan to unless it's to get my stuff back. If she apologizes I will consider it if she makes it up to me.
You still one of the BIGGEST AFCs in this place. You rationalize things like a woman. She disrespected you and you still trying to get together with her? What about self-respect? If you lack that...you should not expect others to respect you either. You should not expect ME to treat you with respect either.

If I was in your shoes...I would have walked away and stopped all communication with her. Only thing I would have done is asked her to please bring the movies to work. Then leave it at that. I wouldn't even talk to her anymore. Even if she appologized. Unless it was work related as you have no choice there.

Dude...she does NOT respect you. She respects the man that dumped her azz.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Latinoman said:
She disrespected you and you still trying to get together with her? .

Where did I state I am trying to get back together with her? That is not true and I haven't talked to her and I don't plan on talking to her. Did you just come in here to flame? She is a HB8 or 9 and I hit it twice so take your AFC flames elsewhere.
 

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but sometimes "LJBF" doesn't mean anything and they still hook up with you, like this situation. So I'm trying this method out but unfortunately I am here and not out spinning plates in the process.

So does anybody have any stories where "not contacting" the female you like for however long made her come back?
dunno, but seems to me, you're trying to get her back
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
She is a HB8 or 9 and I hit it twice so take your AFC flames elsewhere.
The same HB8/9 that her exhusband cheated on and dumped? Hahaha.

What I saw was a woman SCREAMING at you and KICKING YOU DRUNK AZZ out of her house. And a confused little man asking for advice on how to get back with her.

You are acting like this is the first time you "hit an HB8/9". I have news for you...you are not the first one to hit that one and you won't be the last one. Also...There plenty out there.
 
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Latinoman said:
The same HB8/9 that her exhusband cheated on and dumped? Hahaha.

What I saw was a woman SCREAMING at you and KICKING YOU DRUNK AZZ out of her house. And a confused little man asking for advice on how to get back with her.

You are acting like this is the first time you "hit an HB8/9". I have news for you...you are not the first one to hit that one and you won't be the last one. Also...There plenty out there.

But the fact is you came in here and ran your mouth without even knowing the whole story.
So hop off my d!ck.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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My Name is Nobody said:
But the fact is you came in here and ran your mouth without even knowing the story. So hop off my d!ck.
I read the entire thread. That's how I reached the conclusion that you are the biggest (or one of the biggest) AFCs in this place.
 
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I read the entire thread. That's how I reached the conclusion that you are the biggest (or one of the biggest) AFCs in this place.

Hey man, before the new years eve disaster me and this girl were pretty cool. I shouldn't have chased her as aggressively as I did, I already admitted to that mistake. I shouldn't have even been there that night she gave me warning signs and I didn't listen.

She has pics of her ex husband all over the place. That isn't right. I never saw that sh!t before new years eve.
 

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Cool, bro..

So, ok then..

What have you learned fnom this debacle?

Are you willing to put into practice your lessons, and make sure you assert yourself and your needs, and maintain your dignity and self respect?
 
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I agree I would be pathetic if I was still contacting her after she threw me out but I have not done that. She is probably waiting for me to do that so she can laugh at me but I have ignored her and we both have been unusually quiet today at work. It is making it a little weird. I haven't made eye contact with her and I don't want to even see her. We sit close enough that we can hear each other talking and she has been really quiet.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Hey man, before the new years eve disaster me and this girl were pretty cool. I shouldn't have chased her as aggressively as I did, I already admitted to that mistake. I shouldn't have even been there that night she gave me warning signs and I didn't listen.

She has pics of her ex husband all over the place. That isn't right. I never saw that sh!t before new years eve.
THAT can happen to anyone. THAT does NOT make you AFC. What makes you AFC is trying to rationalize (making excuses ) her behavior and trying to find ways of "hitting that again". Instead, what you should be doing is sharing that experience with us (hey, we ALL have bad experiences and we ALL have made bad choices before...that does NOT make us AFC. What makes us AFC or DJs is how we react to those situations).

Take care dude.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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