Does anyone carry a cheat sheet?

[goodfella86]

or a note card when sarging? If so, what are some examples of things you have written down?

 

[ChrizZ]

or a note card when sarging? If so, what are some examples of things you have written down?

pick up chicks.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

pick up chicks.

lol


I think if you plan your sh!t out too much, and rely on a cheat sheet, you won't get very far, if you get anything at all. Save your tips, and cheat sheet reading for when you are at home.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Just recently I printed out a cheat sheet. Basically a overview of my gameplan

All it really has is basically mindsets and frames.

Also have state pumpers.

I find they help a lot, I never tried routines much because I tend to get stuck in my head if I think about a routine. My thought patterns when trying to use a routine is kind of like..."Ok it's I should do the oak tree story...ok let me remember how it goes...ok when should I say it."

Usually now I just spit things out things. I really just focus on vibing and escalating at all times.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Didn't somebody post about having a spreadsheet a few weeks ago?

 

[Charm]

I think a cheatsheets are fine if you need some reminders and just remember not to let it fall out of your pockets while grinding a hor.

A good example might be:

* Openers:
Jealous GF
G-String
Who Lies More
* During Convo
Tease her
Build Attraction by Telling DHV Stories
* DHV Stories
- Cruise to Carribean, The band let me play with them on stage and then it turned out __FILL IN FAMOUS MUSICIANS NAME__ was on the same cruise and was watching in the audience and came up afterwords and told all of us that it was great and fun to watch! (made this up but you get the idea)

 

[Pappadapolis]

lol


I think if you plan your sh!t out too much, and rely on a cheat sheet, you won't get very far, if you get anything at all. Save your tips, and cheat sheet reading for when you are at home.

FJ is right. It has to be second nature to you, if not it won't be effective. You've got to try and fail.

 

[Charm]

FJ is right. It has to be second nature to you, if not it won't be effective. You've got to try and fail.

I DISAGREE with you! What you have said is clearly a lie. It may have to be second nature to you, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Many people need reminders and cheatsheets are a great way of saving time for some and act as a quick reminder. They won't teach you to be confident but they can remind you of tools you have or may have forgotten. To say something HAS to be second nature is a programmed belief that you have, not an absolute truth.

An example is that a guy in a boxing ring has his trainer giving him tips and suggestions from ring side. This goes for NEW and Experienced boxers. This cheatsheet ie. trainer giving you tips reminds you of combos and tools. A guy on the street can knock someone out with no boxing experience at all but with practice and some reminders, his tools *fists* become more deadly.

 

[Kev07]

uhmmm i prefer the method, fail and then access what you did wrong, and fix it. sooner or later everythign will fall into place

 

[Pappadapolis]

I DISAGREE with you! What you have said is clearly a lie. It may have to be second nature to you, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Many people need reminders and cheatsheets are a great way of saving time for some and act as a quick reminder. They won't teach you to be confident but they can remind you of tools you have or may have forgotten. To say something HAS to be second nature is a programmed belief that you have, not an absolute truth.

An example is that a guy in a boxing ring has his trainer giving him tips and suggestions from ring side. This goes for NEW and Experienced boxers. This cheatsheet ie. trainer giving you tips reminds you of combos and tools. A guy on the street can knock someone out with no boxing experience at all but with practice and some reminders, his tools *fists* become more deadly.

That's why is said it should be SECOND nature. That means it doesn't come natrually, it's learned. He shouldn't be taking cheat sheets with him on a date. Like Fortunate Juan said, he should be doing this while he is at home. If he's worried about checking his notes, the date isn't going to flow. True DJing is about improving yourself and your game, not about being something your not.

 

[WC2]

Cheat sheets are for business and school work. Not for women.

Some of the most successful people in business use the "sticky" method in which they post stickies all around their desk. These stickies range from goals to short term tasks that should be completed. Even the most procrastinating people get sick of seeing these and complete the goals just so they can take the stickies off.

Talking to women isn't a business, though. The last thing you should be thinking about when talking to a women is worrying about techniques. Talk to women for enjoyment. If you're not enjoying what you're doing, then you most likely won't succeed. If you treat picking up women like it's a job, then it's going to feel exactly like that; a job.

Keep things like cheatsheets and tips on hand to a minimum. Get the basics in your mind, and keep things like this in the back of your head. If you're worrying too much about yourself when you make the approach, then the chances of you having a great conversation is greatly decreased.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Is it so difficult to be conversational?

 

[PRMoon]

Soclizing with girls is like riding a bike (not to be too cliche but i guess i'm going there). You can either try it a few times and not get it and fall off a few times or you can get training wheels (your "cheat sheet" with notes) and do that for a while. Eventually you'll feel stupid with this artificial support and have to go about trying it without them. I guess you can go that route if you don't have enough faith in yourself that you can do it on your own, if you think it'll help you build confidence through fustration of having something else to carry while you're trying to make it.

 

[abcd_z]

Yes, I carry a cheat sheet. I don't always rely on it, but it helps keep my mind from going blank if I review it before sarging. It contains just names of different routines I've already memorized (most of them are already completely internalized). It contains an opener or two, a disqualifier or two, quite a few different forms of DHV (IVD, push/pull, roleplaying, stories), a screening and qualification routine, and some comfort-building routines. At least half of them are routines I've created myself, and all of it is stuff I've made a point of extensively field-testing.

 

[Charm]

Cheat sheets are for business and school work. Not for women.

Once again, this is your BELIEF and has no bearing on what is actually true. Who are you to say what cheat sheets are for? What if a guy has the goal of just getting laid and practicing C&F and used cheat sheets on dates when he got nervous and consistently got laid as a result of it? According to your belief, he should have only been using it for work and school but if he shared your belief, he'd be at home humping his hand.

My point is that if a person wants to use a cheat sheet, thats fine, let them. It is a crutch that at some point will need to be removed. Your generalizations are only true if you buy into believing they are.

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

Hey... baby... how are you?

If she says hi, turn to page 9

If she says nothing, turn to page 23






OH KAY. How embarassing is it going to be when you get caught using your cheat sheet? I would definitely read some confidence boosters while listening to some good music before you go out. A crutch is still a crutch, and dating/seducing women is probably more like jumping out of a plane than riding a bike. Not because jumping out of a plane is scary. But because the helmet they give you when you skydive, wont help you if sh!t hits the fan.

 

[Charm]

Hey... baby... how are you?

If she says hi, turn to page 9

If she says nothing, turn to page 23

Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'

 

[Fortunate_Juan]

Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'

It was a joke. Loosen up man. I have a cheat sheet; I wrote "don't fu(k up" on the palm of my hand, it seems to be working well... :woo:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'

If a guy believes he can get all the information necessary to interact with women down to one page he's either dreaming or his knowledge about women is very limited.

 

[Charm]

If a guy believes he can get all the information necessary to interact with women down to one page he's either dreaming or his knowledge about women is very limited.

Who said anything about getting all the information necessary? A cheat sheet serves the purpose of providing helpful reminders and hints, not a complete guide book to success.