goodfella86
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or a note card when sarging? If so, what are some examples of things you have written down? 
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
pick up chicks.goodfella86 said:or a note card when sarging? If so, what are some examples of things you have written down?![]()
lolChrizZ said:pick up chicks.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Fortunate_Juan said:lol
I think if you plan your sh!t out too much, and rely on a cheat sheet, you won't get very far, if you get anything at all. Save your tips, and cheat sheet reading for when you are at home.
I DISAGREE with you! What you have said is clearly a lie. It may have to be second nature to you, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Many people need reminders and cheatsheets are a great way of saving time for some and act as a quick reminder. They won't teach you to be confident but they can remind you of tools you have or may have forgotten. To say something HAS to be second nature is a programmed belief that you have, not an absolute truth.Pappadapolis said:FJ is right. It has to be second nature to you, if not it won't be effective. You've got to try and fail.
Charm said:I DISAGREE with you! What you have said is clearly a lie. It may have to be second nature to you, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Many people need reminders and cheatsheets are a great way of saving time for some and act as a quick reminder. They won't teach you to be confident but they can remind you of tools you have or may have forgotten. To say something HAS to be second nature is a programmed belief that you have, not an absolute truth.
An example is that a guy in a boxing ring has his trainer giving him tips and suggestions from ring side. This goes for NEW and Experienced boxers. This cheatsheet ie. trainer giving you tips reminds you of combos and tools. A guy on the street can knock someone out with no boxing experience at all but with practice and some reminders, his tools *fists* become more deadly.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Once again, this is your BELIEF and has no bearing on what is actually true. Who are you to say what cheat sheets are for? What if a guy has the goal of just getting laid and practicing C&F and used cheat sheets on dates when he got nervous and consistently got laid as a result of it? According to your belief, he should have only been using it for work and school but if he shared your belief, he'd be at home humping his hand.WC2 said:Cheat sheets are for business and school work. Not for women.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'Fortunate_Juan said:Hey... baby... how are you?
If she says hi, turn to page 9
If she says nothing, turn to page 23
Charm said:Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'
If a guy believes he can get all the information necessary to interact with women down to one page he's either dreaming or his knowledge about women is very limited.Charm said:Cheatsheets are usually only 1 page hence the name 'sheet'
Who said anything about getting all the information necessary? A cheat sheet serves the purpose of providing helpful reminders and hints, not a complete guide book to success.Francisco d'Anconia said:If a guy believes he can get all the information necessary to interact with women down to one page he's either dreaming or his knowledge about women is very limited.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.