"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Do you trust women?

Do you trust women?


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Jariel

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Just a very simple question, but I'm curious how many guys here have trust issues or are generally cynical about women.

Please answer honestly.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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flippinfreak

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This is more a question for the 'mature' men.
 

TheTrader

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i trust them to behave like woman behaves, so shall i vote yes or no?
 

Jariel

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I know I should answer that I judge them individually, but I voted for "mostly" because of all the women I know, only a small percentage have given me reason to distrust them. Sure, I've been hurt and betrayed VERY badly, but by less than 10 women (that I can recall), which is very small compared to the 100s of female friends and dozens of decent girlfriends and dates I've had.

People who voted rarely or no, well I guess their experiences with women have been very negative.

I'm not sure which is worse - trusting and getting betrayed by women, or being restricted by distrust. But obviously our experiences shape how we perceive other people.
 

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I am cautious when approaching women. They are like wild animals; they aren't domesticated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Brian20o2

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I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Brian20o2 said:
I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
Sounds more like you trust yourself to know what they are about and to act accordingly. :up: 'Authentic' trust has more to do with yourself than it does the other person.

Just something to consider.
 

flippinfreak

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Jariel:

I chose to say I judge them individually, until than I will enjoy calling it seduction.
 

VegasGuy56

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I don't trust women...period.

So far I haven't met a single woman who hasn't blatantly lied to my face for one reason or another. Even my LTR GFs lie. I've always hated liars, but now I realize that in relationships lying is fair game. Sad...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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belividere

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For the most part I pretty much trust women, really I pretty much trust most people. I'm very laid back and not controlling in the least bit. To my knowledge, no girl has cheated on me. The only girlfriend that I ever actually lied to had serious trust issues and got extremely jealous over nothing.

To the people who said no, how do you manage to maintain a relationship if you cannot trust a woman?
 

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I trust them to, on average, make decisions on a different basis than men. To men the objective truth has more value than to women. To women, what is safe has more value. Safety for themselves and those around them. If that means hiding truths, or betraying honor, then they will do so. I don't believe the word honor has much meaning to them - it is far too abstract, and doesn't provide any safety.

For example: a man may choose a battle he knows he cannot win simply because it is the honorable thing to do. He knows he'll go down - that could mean getting his grades lowered, being ostracized, getting beaten up, or being shot in the battlefield - but he feels that honor compels him; he may feel that maybe it will set an example and do some good that way, or simply that honor itself is worth something.

To women, I believe, this is incomprehensible. Granted: it is, today, incomprehensible to many Western men as well, immature and soft and modern as most of them are. But to women, even more so. I know I have never in my whole life heard a woman speak of honor, but I have heard men speak of it. Women seem to hate the concept.

So do I trust women? I trust them to act in accordance with their nature. They will help me if it is safe or neutral for them to do so, not otherwise.
 

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I trust people until they give me a reason not to.
 

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Brian20o2 said:
I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
Bingo, beat me to it. And from a 17 year old aswell, the kids light years ahead of you jariella you could probably learn something here.

P.S I notice you sneakily brought out the society shaming techniques by saying anyone who votes NO has "issues with women", nice.:down:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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don juan jr

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i have trust issues with everyone (male or female)

but generally i judge the individual
 

Jariel

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P.S I notice you sneakily brought out the society shaming techniques by saying anyone who votes NO has "issues with women", nice.:down:
I never said that. I said that they must've had negative experiences with women and that their distrust must be restricting.

I have purposely withheld my opinion from this thread, but just wanted to see how people's trust reflects in their posts. I believe my experiences with women are mostly positive because I think positively, while the reverse can be said of those who think negatively.
 
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I judge individually. They always start out with me not trusting them. They have to earn it.
 

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Generally speaking I don't trust most men or women. I'm sure there is a fair share of trustworthy women out there. People have to earn your trust, but I think women are capable of being as trustworthy as men.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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