"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do you trust women?

Do you trust women?


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Jariel

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Just a very simple question, but I'm curious how many guys here have trust issues or are generally cynical about women.

Please answer honestly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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flippinfreak

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This is more a question for the 'mature' men.
 

TheTrader

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i trust them to behave like woman behaves, so shall i vote yes or no?
 

Jariel

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I know I should answer that I judge them individually, but I voted for "mostly" because of all the women I know, only a small percentage have given me reason to distrust them. Sure, I've been hurt and betrayed VERY badly, but by less than 10 women (that I can recall), which is very small compared to the 100s of female friends and dozens of decent girlfriends and dates I've had.

People who voted rarely or no, well I guess their experiences with women have been very negative.

I'm not sure which is worse - trusting and getting betrayed by women, or being restricted by distrust. But obviously our experiences shape how we perceive other people.
 

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I am cautious when approaching women. They are like wild animals; they aren't domesticated.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Brian20o2

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I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Brian20o2 said:
I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
Sounds more like you trust yourself to know what they are about and to act accordingly. :up: 'Authentic' trust has more to do with yourself than it does the other person.

Just something to consider.
 

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Jariel:

I chose to say I judge them individually, until than I will enjoy calling it seduction.
 

VegasGuy56

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I don't trust women...period.

So far I haven't met a single woman who hasn't blatantly lied to my face for one reason or another. Even my LTR GFs lie. I've always hated liars, but now I realize that in relationships lying is fair game. Sad...
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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For the most part I pretty much trust women, really I pretty much trust most people. I'm very laid back and not controlling in the least bit. To my knowledge, no girl has cheated on me. The only girlfriend that I ever actually lied to had serious trust issues and got extremely jealous over nothing.

To the people who said no, how do you manage to maintain a relationship if you cannot trust a woman?
 

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I trust them to, on average, make decisions on a different basis than men. To men the objective truth has more value than to women. To women, what is safe has more value. Safety for themselves and those around them. If that means hiding truths, or betraying honor, then they will do so. I don't believe the word honor has much meaning to them - it is far too abstract, and doesn't provide any safety.

For example: a man may choose a battle he knows he cannot win simply because it is the honorable thing to do. He knows he'll go down - that could mean getting his grades lowered, being ostracized, getting beaten up, or being shot in the battlefield - but he feels that honor compels him; he may feel that maybe it will set an example and do some good that way, or simply that honor itself is worth something.

To women, I believe, this is incomprehensible. Granted: it is, today, incomprehensible to many Western men as well, immature and soft and modern as most of them are. But to women, even more so. I know I have never in my whole life heard a woman speak of honor, but I have heard men speak of it. Women seem to hate the concept.

So do I trust women? I trust them to act in accordance with their nature. They will help me if it is safe or neutral for them to do so, not otherwise.
 

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I trust people until they give me a reason not to.
 

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Brian20o2 said:
I trust them to be women. By that I mean, I know that women change their minds at random for who knows what reasons and often do things they said they never would.
Bingo, beat me to it. And from a 17 year old aswell, the kids light years ahead of you jariella you could probably learn something here.

P.S I notice you sneakily brought out the society shaming techniques by saying anyone who votes NO has "issues with women", nice.:down:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i have trust issues with everyone (male or female)

but generally i judge the individual
 

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P.S I notice you sneakily brought out the society shaming techniques by saying anyone who votes NO has "issues with women", nice.:down:
I never said that. I said that they must've had negative experiences with women and that their distrust must be restricting.

I have purposely withheld my opinion from this thread, but just wanted to see how people's trust reflects in their posts. I believe my experiences with women are mostly positive because I think positively, while the reverse can be said of those who think negatively.
 
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I judge individually. They always start out with me not trusting them. They have to earn it.
 

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Generally speaking I don't trust most men or women. I'm sure there is a fair share of trustworthy women out there. People have to earn your trust, but I think women are capable of being as trustworthy as men.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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