“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Do you tolerate chicks that are dating multiple men?

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If I'm spinning plates and only seeing her once a week, I don't ask questions, I assume she may be doing the same, but I don't want to hear about it. If she brings it up, I would probably let that plate break, it's an unspoken rule not to talk about the other people you are having sex with. Change the sheets before you're next girl shows up, there is no reason to have to deal with the conversation of other partners. They will see brunette hair in your bed if they are a blond. No reason to slap it in their face, they know what's going on, and it goes in the opposite direction as well.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

Bokanovsky

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Every women you ever dated was likely dating more than just you when you began a relationship.

Really naive to think this isn't the case.

Maybe it protects your ego but that's not reality.
Dating as in going on a few dates? Or dating as in fvcking multiple men? I'm quote certain I've never dated a woman who did the later. Such women exist, but contrary to what some people belie, they are not the majority.
 

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Most women aren’t sleeping around on a regular basis. But don’t be naive to think most don’t have 1-2 guys who they absolutely would bang if the opportunity presented itself to them on maybe a one or two off basis. It’s 2025, and for better or worse this is how women operate now. Lots of orbiters while they keep their eye on their prize(s) (a high SMV guy).
 

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Dating as in going on a few dates? Or dating as in fvcking multiple men? I'm quote certain I've never dated a woman who did the later. Such women exist, but contrary to what some people belie, they are not the majority.
I said dating in both posts, I never said fvcking. You seem to have inferred the latter.
 

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I certainly lose interest anytime this is the case, at least in the sense of me wanting to do the lifting in the relationship. That said, if she's making it easy, and I'm getting sexed, then it's not a problem (of course, there is the problem that such a woman would not make a suitable wife)
Just **** buddy. If you decide to date her that's on you.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I tolerate chicks who date me while also dating my c0ck.
 

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Women only date multiple men or have backup options if the top guy isn’t her first choice interest. Once she finds a guy with potential, she drops the other guys like that. If you find a woman is still talking to other guys after a month of talking then you aren’t her first choice.
 

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I said dating in both posts, I never said fvcking. You seem to have inferred the latter.
The post you were responding to said "You should never become exclusive with a woman who sleeps around with multiple men". I'd say it was a pretty reasonable inference.
 

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The post you were responding to said "You should never become exclusive with a woman who sleeps around with multiple men". I'd say it was a pretty reasonable inference.
I didn't reply to any post meaning I was responding to the original post and topic which states "Do you tolerate chicks that are dating multiple men?" and nowhere in the original post does it talk about a woman having sex with multiple men.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Women only date multiple men or have backup options if the top guy isn’t her first choice interest.
More dating interactions are started from tech methods than real life methods now.

Tech methods are excellent at enabling women to date multiple men. Prior to the rise of tech methods, it was far more difficult for women to date multiple men. The Gen X women who were in their 20s and early 30s in the 1990s/early 2000s could only date multiple men if they had a good daily routine and were regularly going out to bars and events and were going to singles dense gyms in a larger city.

It's far easier now for women to put multiple men in her rotation from swipe apps and social media DMs. The abundance that women have had in recent times would have been difficult for a young woman in the 1990s-early 2000s to imagine.

Tech methods are excellent for men in producing "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions. Some of those interactions are a fault of the man. The man isn't screening well enough and arranging dates that he shouldn't arranging out of scarcity mentality from not getting enough matches while the woman is flooded with matches.

Once she finds a guy with potential, she drops the other guys like that.
This might cause some guys to get dropped after 1-2 sexless dates, but I'm not sure if it is the primary reason for that event.

If you find a woman is still talking to other guys after a month of talking then you aren’t her first choice.
This is accurate. After a month, a man should have gotten 3-5 dates and gotten sex by then. If he hasn't gotten to sex by then, that man isn't her first choice and it is possible the woman is dissatisfied with all her choices.

If the man has gotten to sex and the woman is still entertaining options with different men, it could be interpreted that the sex wasn't satisfying enough for her to lock in with that man.
 

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More dating interactions are started from tech methods than real life methods now.

Tech methods are excellent at enabling women to date multiple men. Prior to the rise of tech methods, it was far more difficult for women to date multiple men. The Gen X women who were in their 20s and early 30s in the 1990s/early 2000s could only date multiple men if they had a good daily routine and were regularly going out to bars and events and were going to singles dense gyms in a larger city.

It's far easier now for women to put multiple men in her rotation from swipe apps and social media DMs. The abundance that women have had in recent times would have been difficult for a young woman in the 1990s-early 2000s to imagine.

Tech methods are excellent for men in producing "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions. Some of those interactions are a fault of the man. The man isn't screening well enough and arranging dates that he shouldn't arranging out of scarcity mentality from not getting enough matches while the woman is flooded with matches.



This might cause some guys to get dropped after 1-2 sexless dates, but I'm not sure if it is the primary reason for that event.


This is accurate. After a month, a man should have gotten 3-5 dates and gotten sex by then. If he hasn't gotten to sex by then, that man isn't her first choice and it is possible the woman is dissatisfied with all her choices.

If the man has gotten to sex and the woman is still entertaining options with different men, it could be interpreted that the sex wasn't satisfying enough for her to lock in with that man.
In my experience, women only cut off their orbiters once they have a committed relationship. One or two might slip through the cracks or try to reach out, but when that happens and if the man finds out, the man either calls her out and walk away, or forgive her and establish his boundaries. If she sees the man as that high value man still she’ll handle these orbiters on her own.

Think about it, why would she get rid of them after sex when she’s still hoping for commitment? Sure, they get less attention, but most aren’t dropped until she’s in a real relationship.
 

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In my experience, women only cut off their orbiters once they have a committed relationship.
Orbiters are a fascinating topic. The typical woman of the 2010s-2020s has more orbiters than the women of the late 20th Century-earlier 2000s.

Orbiters may or may not be a threat. Most orbiters are stuck in a platonic friend, no pussie zone. Many men linger with women in a bad zone like that. I've done well over the years not being an orbiter for any woman. I have had female platonic friends in situations where I've been attracted to a woman. My female friendships have been limited to one mid woman where I wasn't attracted (that friendship ended in lousy fashion). I have minimal female acquaintances.

One or two might slip through the cracks or try to reach out, but when that happens and if the man finds out, the man either calls her out and walk away, or forgive her and establish his boundaries. If she sees the man as that high value man still she’ll handle these orbiters on her own.

Think about it, why would she get rid of them after sex when she’s still hoping for commitment? Sure, they get less attention, but most aren’t dropped until she’s in a real relationship.
Budding and established boyfriends are not happy when male orbiters attempt interactions with their girlfriends.

Some of these new or established boyfriends might not find out about the orbiters. While most orbiters are harmless (women don't see them as sexual possibilities), there are enough possible dangerous orbiters.

Even married men might have to deal with orbiters. Orbiters can get more dangerous in marriages as time elapses and relationship satisfaction decreases.
 

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If it's just someone you met you can't expect that from them, it's not really fair. You should assume she's seeing other people (and you should probably try to do the same). After dating for a while it's a different story....I know I would be unhappy about it.

Most women aren’t sleeping around on a regular basis. But don’t be naive to think most don’t have 1-2 guys who they absolutely would bang if the opportunity presented itself to them on maybe a one or two off basis. It’s 2025, and for better or worse this is how women operate now. Lots of orbiters while they keep their eye on their prize(s) (a high SMV guy).
Don't be surprised if after you get to know a woman for a bit and you get into friendly stage (dating or are just good friends) at a party or something she introduces you to male "friend". He likely is a "friend" but there's also a good chance they've slept together --- if they appear to be really good friends this is much more likely (genuine friendships not the fake kind wit simps). I've been in this situation before, was introduced as a friend when I had prior history with the woman before.
 

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Orbiters are a fascinating topic. The typical woman of the 2010s-2020s has more orbiters than the women of the late 20th Century-earlier 2000s.

Orbiters may or may not be a threat. Most orbiters are stuck in a platonic friend, no pussie zone. Many men linger with women in a bad zone like that. I've done well over the years not being an orbiter for any woman. I have had female platonic friends in situations where I've been attracted to a woman. My female friendships have been limited to one mid woman where I wasn't attracted (that friendship ended in lousy fashion). I have minimal female acquaintances.



Budding and established boyfriends are not happy when male orbiters attempt interactions with their girlfriends.

Some of these new or established boyfriends might not find out about the orbiters. While most orbiters are harmless (women don't see them as sexual possibilities), there are enough possible dangerous orbiters.

Even married men might have to deal with orbiters. Orbiters can get more dangerous in marriages as time elapses and relationship satisfaction decreases.
You’re forgetting about strategic orbiters, like the ex or former FWB. These aren’t just platonic backups; they’re familiar, low-friction options she can demote or promote depending on her emotional or sexual needs. And since they’ve already slept together, it doesn’t “count” as a new notch in her body count — which makes it psychologically easier for her to revisit.

Then there’s the replacement orbiter, the one who gets activated when the top guy ghosts her, flakes, or fumbles. That’s the “I got ghosted so there’s magically another guy in the picture” scenario. These orbiters are part of her contingency plan.
 

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You’re forgetting about strategic orbiters, like the ex or former FWB. These aren’t just platonic backups; they’re familiar, low-friction options she can demote or promote depending on her emotional or sexual needs. And since they’ve already slept together, it doesn’t “count” as a new notch in her body count — which makes it psychologically easier for her to revisit.
Glad you added that one. Those are important orbiters and the most dangerous ones. For most men, the hope would be that those men are occupied with other LTRs or FWBs.

Then there’s the replacement orbiter, the one who gets activated when the top guy ghosts her, flakes, or fumbles. That’s the “I got ghosted so there’s magically another guy in the picture” scenario. These orbiters are part of her contingency plan.
That can happen too. It's more difficult to get laid as a replacement orbiter than a strategic orbiter who has a sexual past with her.
 

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Women only date multiple men or have backup options if the top guy isn’t her first choice interest. Once she finds a guy with potential, she drops the other guys like that. If you find a woman is still talking to other guys after a month of talking then you aren’t her first choice.
It's OVER for 2ndChoiceCels.
 

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Emotionally, I’m not the jealous kind.
Logically, I like being STD free
 
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