Epicwinguy
Master Don Juan
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I will at least be with a couple escorts before then.No the real question is how did he manage to be a virgin at 47.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I will at least be with a couple escorts before then.No the real question is how did he manage to be a virgin at 47.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Age is both physiological and social. I say he should fix the physiological part and forget about the social part and do it anyway. He shouldn't call himself 'cool smoke' though lol.If he was 27 I'd say this would be doable and a pretty good idea, as he would still be young and not that much older than upper class men. However, he is 47 and would be almost as old as many of his fellow students' parents.......think about that for a minute.
I didn't read the thread he wrote but it makes me wonder why he decided to wait so long in order to address this. You guys should feel bad for him.
After absurd pickup, its not a cake walk, but it can be done. If the goal is top form SMV 18-23 is a foolish goal. At 47, priorities should be chasing excellence.I was reading this, but I have my doubts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FA30plus/comments/3vlb1d
my opinion: It's over for him.
There's a lot of speculation on this dude. It would be better if any of us seen him in person to ask questions. Like you, I get the impression that the guy is probably not the smartest and hardest working of the bunch, but it's possible that he is where he wants to be career wise.After absurd pickup, its not a cake walk, but it can be done. If the goal is top form SMV 18-23 is a foolish goal. At 47, priorities should be chasing excellence.
I wish him well but, the mark is excellence > women. I pull but its sport.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
+1There's a lot of speculation on this dude. It would be better if any of us seen him in person to ask questions. Like you, I get the impression that the guy is probably not the smartest and hardest working of the bunch, but it's possible that he is where he wants to be career wise.
If he's happy, who cares? If he frees his soul from the b.s. and lives life on his terms, with getting rich in his own business, having fun, why not suddenly pick up a cute 18yo? She might even learn something from him.+1
At 47, its absurd to make a shift from real life virgin middle age to getting baaaaae. Outlook not so good.
No body decide to wait, life go quickly and many people make wrong decisions , some in relationships some in finance others in education , and they pay the price the rest of their life. He could be busy with his life and wake up to see he is 47 , or we he was blue pilled waiting some day some girl will come and that never happened.I didn't read the thread he wrote but it makes me wonder why he decided to wait so long in order to address this. You guys should feel bad for him.
If he's a 47 yr old virgin male, likely the 18 Yr old western woman will be teaching him lulz.If he's happy, who cares? If he frees his soul from the b.s. and lives life on his terms, with getting rich in his own business, having fun, why not suddenly pick up a cute 18yo? She might even learn something from him.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
+1No body decide to wait, life go quickly and many people make wrong decisions , some in relationships some in finance others in education , and they pay the price the rest of their life. He could be busy with his life and wake up to see he is 47 , or we he was blue pilled waiting some day some girl will come and that never happened.
Being never married ftw!Also while women doesnt go for older guy in serious relationships , many go secretly with them as sugar daddies. I have read somewhere that Sugar Daddy (and Sugar Mammy) relationships are increasing in numbers sisce there are more old people single with money due to either divorce or being never married
A lot of them will. I'd say f* it and do it. Unfortunately Mr. cool smoke is not that bright and is probably going to f it all up.If he's a 47 yr old virgin male, likely the 18 Yr old western woman will be teaching him lulz.
I am thinking a lot of millennial men are headed this route. They are busy trying to be pretty putting on thrir makeup and skinny jeans. I blame low testosterone.A lot of them will. I'd say f* it and do it. Unfortunately Mr. cool smoke is not that bright and is probably going to f it all up.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Assuming he isn’t a troll, he seems to be under the impression that winning over the young guys as friends will be EASIER than the girls lol. Good luck with that.If he was under 30 then I'd say maybe he has a chance. At 47 forget it. He's not breaking into any college social circles at that age. I couldn't imagine hanging out with college kids at my age even.
The problem for this guy is he waited too long to fix his problem. He should have address this issue before he was 25. Stupid Oldcels think they can learn a few PUA tricks and then time travel and get a second chance not realizing their simply too old. His only hope in my opinion is sugar daddy game at this point if he wants the prime young poon.Assuming he isn’t a troll, he seems to be under the impression that winning over the young guys as friends will be EASIER than the girls lol. Good luck with that.
19 yr old men ain't cool too tbh."Do you think this 47 y.o. virgin will achieve his PUA goals by going back to college & hanging around cool 19 year old men?"
tldr
NO
Age is a number. He needs to whip his butt into shape and just go for what he wants. Otherwise he's going to end up with some massive complex. I wish I could interview him personally and speak my mind to him so he knows what he has to do, otherwise I think he's too dumb to be successful.If he was under 30 then I'd say maybe he has a chance. At 47 forget it. He's not breaking into any college social circles at that age. I couldn't imagine hanging out with college kids at my age even.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.