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Do yall ever send the first text after the first date

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Lol got the “lack of spark” response…Changes are being made to deal with this Disney mentality.
 

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This is simply not true. I've messaged many women over the years after a date, and usually got a response which lead to another date
When Ive invested heavily, arranged logistics, and most likely picked up 80% of the tab, she messages me first or she never gets this mans
quality time again

Women cant get a quality mans time, it is the equivalent of finding Henry the VIII body armour
 

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If she doesn't let you know that she arrived home safely I would message the following morning explicitly ask if she arrived safely to reopen her.
you should not be showing much concern for a woman who has given you nothing, especially re-asking the morning after, comes across as sarcastic beta male. She heard your instructions loud and clear the night before, trying to rationalise her no-contact is a fools errand.
 

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I gotta chime in here and say this:

If you want to know if she has arrived home safely, without sounding needy or weird or showing that you care, message her an hour after the date and say you enjoyed it. When she replies back then you know she's fine. If she doesn't reply back then guess what, next. And if you want to remain "mysterious" then don't respond for a few days after her reply.

It completely depends on the girl and the vibe between the 2 of you. Some girls I will show the care and ask them to let me know when they arrived safely. Others I won't even bother to text that I enjoyed the date.

Some guys here saying they don't ever send the text after the date and wait for her to text first. If it's a tinder or Instagram date or you are just another plate to her then this is the move.

Although, when you really connect with a person it won't fricken matter when you text them.
 

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Usually yeah, it's often about something funny that happened.
 

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Invite a girl out to a date, buy her a drink and show her a good time. Now you’re going to reach out and thank her for it?
I never said you should thank her.

A girl with high interest will contact you each and every time. If you’re worried about competitors, her interest is lukewarm at best and not worthy of your time.
Yes, equally a woman with high interest won't penalise you for messaging her either.

Anecdotally speaking, it has worked wonders for me. The first time I did it, the chick sent me a really long text about how much she loved that and how happy it made her. It helps that a lot of the women I have dated see me as some sort of "father figure".
I used to have an ex girlfriend who use to get angry/upset if I didn't ask if she arrived safely. Ever since I integrated it into my game, because its instant feedback. If she doesn't reply I know the date went bad and I can move on quicker.

Yes it applies. Just dont do it. Especially after hooking up. She gets messages all dam day long. Stand out. Have options
How about sending a message that stands out, or are you incapable of crafting a message that stands out :)
Although, when you really connect with a person it won't fricken matter when you text them.
Indeed!
 

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How about sending a message that stands out, or are you incapable of crafting a message that stands out :)
Doesnt work bro. 9/10 when you reach out first you are the thirsty one. Ive not been proven wrong. Even when that week it works she replies, within a month shes ghost.
 

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Depends - is she a new plate or a genuine keeper love interest?

assuming the latter absolutely not - send her a text that says thank you, had a great time,
”I got tickets for X on Thursday what time do I pick you up?”

Costs you nothing and could mean everything to her.
 

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Doesnt work bro. 9/10 when you reach out first you are the thirsty one. Ive not been proven wrong. Even when that week it works she replies, within a month shes ghost.
Doesn't work for you. Keyword you.

It didn't work for you because she wasn't interested in you.

It does work, you've been proven wrong already because me and Zimbabwe have been doing it successfully for years.
 

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I think this is a classic trap: thinking there's one model/answer that always works. Often in game there's so much uncertainty and different factors that doing X doesn't always succeed/fail, it varies. So, we're all right, depending on factors. But we can still find out what is "generally best", and what works in the particular cases.
 

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Doesn't work for you. Keyword you.

It didn't work for you because she wasn't interested in you.

It does work, you've been proven wrong already because me and Zimbabwe have been doing it successfully for years.
I doubt it. You like being the chaser within the first 3 dates. Keep doing it.
It doesnt work bro.
If she is not a "helll yea"! Within the time that you dont reach out. YOU are not her first choice.

The guy who texts the girl first after first meet is a simp and is already blowing his load.
Its just the very beginning of the loss of frame.
Also is the guy who dont know the games she comes at you from the very beginning.
You put the work in to get her out on day 1. What after thsy first meet is she going to do for you?
You first

"Hey nice meeting you"
"Hi had a great time" what are your plans this weekend"?
"Insert some stupid banter about date"
As in I saw such and such and thought of you" emoji emoji<----'----- all these moves are beta nice guy behavior.

The only move is nothing. Wait her out and when she breaks the silence its all yours fella.



Guage it from the beginning. This frame MUST be set at day 1.
I can only imagine how this REALLY goes for you. Cheatue Heartiste has an excellent series on text game. Read it.
 
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Guage it from the beginning. This frame MUST be set at day 1.
I can only imagine how this REALLY goes for you. Cheatue Heartiste has an excellent series on text game. Read it.
Where do I find these series of Heartiste's text game? I've read these:


haven't read the Reddit stuff yet though.

I found those texts quite useful for day and night gaming/approaching. Like to not over game (did this, did over qualifying also), soft belly, attainability.
 

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Depends. If I feel like it yes. This is usually not going to make or break the relationship.
 

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For me, NO.

Reason:

1/ If the 1st date went well (you kissed, even fvcked): She would reach out to you because it's female nature to reach out to a male who made them feel good.

2/ If the 1st date went sh!tty (no chemistry, awkward conversation, no kiss, etc...): You would only make it worse by initiating contact afterwards.
 

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Where do I find these series of Heartiste's text game? I've read these:


haven't read the Reddit stuff yet though.

I found those texts quite useful for day and night gaming/approaching. Like to not over game (did this, did over qualifying also), soft belly, attainability.
Here is whats left of Roissys blog. He took down most.
I would recommend hos book. He is getting ready to release volume 2 now. What a glorious day that will be.


Heartiste on game is on Amazon.
 

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It helps that a lot of the women I have dated see me as some sort of "father figure".
Attained experience/knowledge or not I’d say I also get a father figure role. Younger girls, in particular these 19-23 in my current environment. They mirror my opinions and views, some rapport. I’ve often shied away because it’s “wrong” and not the “responsible thing to do,” it feels like “power abuse.” Lulz. This principle of being “responsible” has even gone so far as not accepting an obvious come-on from a guest at my dinner party, because “I was the host.” Wtf. No comment. Even delirious. I think I can carve out these things myself, but suggestions for addressing this kind of beta behavior is appreciated.

On the other hand, I’ve seen the father-thingy as a concern, because it to me feels like some kind of friend zone. Maybe I’m right. I don’t want to be a trusty teddybear for them, but maybe that’s a good start. The task is to turn it sexual and into dominance, “daddy gonna show you.” I guess I shouldn’t be afraid or feel shameful for that power position.

Some on Twitter post about that a sign of attraction is the “cheering” and copying of the man they adore, so I guess it’s a general trait of women. One should be proud. Maybe we’re wrong in titling it “father figure”, it’s more about simply being a man.

I don’t know about your perspective, @Zimbabwe.
 

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There's a rule in business that I heard of that basically says whoever speaks business first loses, does this apply to dating?
There is also this saying that goes: "You can never say the wrong thing to the right person".


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