"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Do fat girls and in-shape girls like the same kind of guys?
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Gangster Of Love
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just do a brief readig of some of the posts on this site.
Gangster Of Love said:
Well, what I should've said in the original post was that fat girls tend to like a skinnier guy or a much fatter guy and it seems that in-shape girls don't like either of these guys, but once again maybe I'm wrong.
Now my gf happens to be a HB6 (for arguments sake). Does that mean I refer her over say Jessica Alba? Of course not....it just happens to be the best I can do for now.
So for your case, its fair to assume that, the skinny or fat guys, i.e. the less desirable guys are the best they can do. So they date them while secretly having crushes on (or perhaps even going further) on the athletic/better looking guys.
oakraiderz2
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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omfgDuffdog said:
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The funny thing is that fat chicks have the same snobby attitude and exectations as any other girl. They don't consider themselves overweight, but just with extra meat on their bones. My simple answer would be yes.
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Do fat/ugly/loser guys like uglier girls more? No but it's all they can get. At the end of the day they still jerk off to the hot girls who they have no chance with in real life.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
It all comes down to personal preference. Some girls like muscular dudes, some like them skinny, some like them with a little bit of meat. I'm going to say that its few and far between though that a woman goes to a club with the thought of bagging her a fat ass.
In the end, it's game that wins out over looks. Biggie Smalls got just as much poon as tupac, ya dig?
oakraiderz2
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Once again, you can compare celebrities to the average joe.magickarl said:
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Demystify said:
They definitely like the same types of guys, but what happens, is that, uglies and fatties have MUCH less options, therefore you'll always notice, they're MUCH more likely to approach guys, are more aggressive with guys, MUCH easier lays(don't require game), etc. etc. These are under-sexed women. They "settle" for the guy virtually all the time, and the guy, 99% of the time, settles for them as well. They almost never get the guy they want, and end up settling, whereas the hottie, virtually ALWAYS has sex with the guy she wants.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Actually, I wouldn't be too sure about that generalizationmagickarl said:
Even though they were both hot shot, Alpha-male rap starts who could get into the pants of almost any women they laid eyes upon as a result of their sheer celebrity and fame...... :yes:
Unlike Biggie-Smalls, Tupac seems like the kind of guy who was rolling in pvssy his entire life ----> even before any of them hit it big
