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Divorced Dude (Not losing yourself)

TheNewStyle123

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What's up gentlemen.

I'm posting this for advice, but also just to get some stuff off my mind right now. Some of you may know my situation, but if not, I'll quickly recap: my wife and I separated in August. Marriage was just a mess and I found out she was seeing someone else (I was only married 3 years). Around this time a friend recommended TRM to me and it has been a life saver (as well as the help from all of you here on sosuave). For the first time in my life I feel happy again and like my old self, except this time I am armed with better knowledge from my mistakes. I know the type of person I want to be with, and what to avoid in my next relationship.

Anyways, who else here has gone through a divorce? I ended up having to get an attorney because my wife was acting irrational (shocker) and was threatening me every week that SHE would be getting one. We have NO kids, house was sold, and NO major assets to split up. This literally could of all been taken care of with a mediator... but you know.. women.

It has now been the better part of 5 months that we have been separated with still no divorce. She was supposed to get her financial documents in to my attorney (I served her) within 45 days. 4 months went by and NOTHING. A month ago my attorney sent hers a letter through certified mail. No reply. Just last week we filed a motion to compel giving her 7 days to get the documents in....still nothing. We are supposed to be having a zoom hearing regarding the motion to compel this Wednesday (if that even occurs).

The funny thing is, she has continued to text me occasionally throughout this time about random bullsh!t (filing our taxes this year, something that came in the mail, etc.) and has never once addressed the fact that she never got her documents in and could be sanctioned by the court. I have of course not mentioned this to her as this is my (and her) attorneys job to discuss.

I am trying to keep sight of my own happiness and sanity. I cannot let this dictate my life no matter how much it continues to drag on without her cooperation. For once, I have the power back in my life. I've hooked up with a few girls over the past few months (another date tonight) and it has been great. There was a point during the low of my marriage where I thought: "Is this really it? Am I just stuck with this non-affectionate, moody, insecure person for the rest of my life?" Needless to say, re-entering the game has felt like a resurrection.

Wondering if you guys have been through a similar situation. Hoping the grass is greener and within the next few months I can say I am 'officially' divorced.

Thanks boys.
 

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We did it with no attorneys. Everyone I know who has used attorneys got raked over the coals with them billing them for every little thing and racking up 20-30K before all was said and done. They want nothing more than to drag it out and it make it as contentious as they can on both sides so the parties dig their heels in against each other and fight so they can go back and forth forever and make as much money as possible off them. It's a racket.
 

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We did it with no attorneys. Everyone I know who has used attorneys got raked over the coals with them billing them for every little thing and racking up 20-30K before all was said and done. They want nothing more than to drag it out and it make it as contentious as they can on both sides so the parties dig their heels in against each other and fight so they can go back and forth forever and make as much money as possible off them. It's a racket.
It's ridiculous dude. Like I said, no kids, all assets already split... if she wasn't so volatile in the beginning I totally would have said mediator. I just hope it gets resolved sooner rather than later. Enough time has passed, plus we were only married 3 years..
 

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It's ridiculous dude. Like I said, no kids, all assets already split... if she wasn't so volatile in the beginning I totally would have said mediator. I just hope it gets resolved sooner rather than later. Enough time has passed, plus we were only married 3 years..
You are lucky no kids...they use them as giant pawns in this whole thing.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

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What's up gentlemen.

I'm posting this for advice, but also just to get some stuff off my mind right now. Some of you may know my situation, but if not, I'll quickly recap: my wife and I separated in August. Marriage was just a mess and I found out she was seeing someone else (I was only married 3 years). Around this time a friend recommended TRM to me and it has been a life saver (as well as the help from all of you here on sosuave). For the first time in my life I feel happy again and like my old self, except this time I am armed with better knowledge from my mistakes. I know the type of person I want to be with, and what to avoid in my next relationship.

Anyways, who else here has gone through a divorce? I ended up having to get an attorney because my wife was acting irrational (shocker) and was threatening me every week that SHE would be getting one. We have NO kids, house was sold, and NO major assets to split up. This literally could of all been taken care of with a mediator... but you know.. women.

It has now been the better part of 5 months that we have been separated with still no divorce. She was supposed to get her financial documents in to my attorney (I served her) within 45 days. 4 months went by and NOTHING. A month ago my attorney sent hers a letter through certified mail. No reply. Just last week we filed a motion to compel giving her 7 days to get the documents in....still nothing. We are supposed to be having a zoom hearing regarding the motion to compel this Wednesday (if that even occurs).

The funny thing is, she has continued to text me occasionally throughout this time about random bullsh!t (filing our taxes this year, something that came in the mail, etc.) and has never once addressed the fact that she never got her documents in and could be sanctioned by the court. I have of course not mentioned this to her as this is my (and her) attorneys job to discuss.

I am trying to keep sight of my own happiness and sanity. I cannot let this dictate my life no matter how much it continues to drag on without her cooperation. For once, I have the power back in my life. I've hooked up with a few girls over the past few months (another date tonight) and it has been great. There was a point during the low of my marriage where I thought: "Is this really it? Am I just stuck with this non-affectionate, moody, insecure person for the rest of my life?" Needless to say, re-entering the game has felt like a resurrection.

Wondering if you guys have been through a similar situation. Hoping the grass is greener and within the next few months I can say I am 'officially' divorced.

Thanks boys.
Yes, I filed for divorce and then I filed for an annulment. The divorce lasted longer than the marriage. Everything depends on your state, and we cannot give you legal advice. However, are you represented by an attorney? If so, he can file a motion of default judgement if she doesn't respond. Stop talking to her. I have no idea why anyone who's going through a divorce and who's been cheated on is still conversing with their ex if no children are involved. Get good records and docs of everything.

Is the grass greener? No, not really. Once a person goes through a divorce, they look at the whole marriage, LTR and family court system differently. You will be jaded if you had enough scars from the legal system. For me, I would not get married again. It was a nightmare, I wasn't happy and I didn't conform like my ex-wife's friend's husbands appeared to. I am a little rough around the edges, and I've experienced being poor, living with no heat and no water for a bit in NYC. So, I can adapt. However, telling a person where I am, where I am going, reporting to the mothership; as Tom Leykis refers to it is just not for me. You want a loan, wifey has to sign off on it. You want a car, wifey wants to sign off on it. You want a HELOC on YOUR home, wifey needs to agree. F uck that. I never understood how a dudes money and assets becomes our assets, but her assets stays hers. Ever see how dude and females word things differently. Dudes say ours, females say hers. Anyway, you may also now be willing to let a female walk if she gives you an ultimatum of marriage or breaking up. I've let a few walk away, and I never looked back. They've reached out, I just laugh. Current GF says that's evil of me, and I said, oh well. It's funny and pathetic at the same time. All in all, you may become numb; and that's okay. Just don't go back on what you say. Be up front with them, and stick to what you said. Then, they can never say you misled them. If they walk, they walk, but at least you know you didn't "waste their time" or promise something you were never going to deliver in the 1st place. Remember, females have a biological clock, dudes generally do not.
 

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Yes, I filed for divorce and then I filed for an annulment. The divorce lasted longer than the marriage. Everything depends on your state, and we cannot give you legal advice. However, are you represented by an attorney? If so, he can file a motion of default judgement if she doesn't respond. Stop talking to her. I have no idea why anyone who's going through a divorce and who's been cheated on is still conversing with their ex if no children are involved. Get good records and docs of everything.

Is the grass greener? No, not really. Once a person goes through a divorce, they look at the whole marriage, LTR and family court system differently. You will be jaded if you had enough scars from the legal system. For me, I would not get married again. It was a nightmare, I wasn't happy and I didn't conform like my ex-wife's friend's husbands appeared to. I am a little rough around the edges, and I've experienced being poor, living with no heat and no water for a bit in NYC. So, I can adapt. However, telling a person where I am, where I am going, reporting to the mothership; as Tom Leykis refers to it is just not for me. You want a loan, wifey has to sign off on it. You want a car, wifey wants to sign off on it. You want a HELOC on YOUR home, wifey needs to agree. F uck that. I never understood how a dudes money and assets becomes our assets, but her assets stays hers. Ever see how dude and females word things differently. Dudes say ours, females say hers. Anyway, you may also now be willing to let a female walk if she gives you an ultimatum of marriage or breaking up. I've let a few walk away, and I never looked back. They've reached out, I just laugh. Current GF says that's evil of me, and I said, oh well. It's funny and pathetic at the same time. All in all, you may become numb; and that's okay. Just don't go back on what you say. Be up front with them, and stick to what you said. Then, they can never say you misled them. If they walk, they walk, but at least you know you didn't "waste their time" or promise something you were never going to deliver in the 1st place. Remember, females have a biological clock, dudes generally do not.
Good advice, thank you Rick! Yeah, I'm already seeing it in myself how I am starting to view women/marriage/relationships differently... but in a self-actualization and positive way. Hey, you need to always protect yourself and your own happiness first right?
 

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Good luck.

My best advice? Don't try to rush it, or you will end up sacrificing a lot. Most divorces take 1-2 years, often with a minimum 6 month requirement.

Your situation sounds fairly simple, fortunately. You shouldn't really need an attorney if everything is square. If you're fees start to pile up, I would **** can them and do it yourself. A couple hours of research could save you thousands.

As far as the contact goes, I would keep conversation to the bare minimum. Ask yourself, do I have to respond? If not, then don't. She will get the clue eventually.
 

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Big respect for you, for choosing to live that way.
It's the right thing to do. Though, most females in their 20's and 30's are freezing their eggs, so it's not that big of a deal anymore, but still. If a couple just wants FWB's, no problem. Tell em. It should start that way anyway.

Good advice, thank you Rick! Yeah, I'm already seeing it in myself how I am starting to view women/marriage/relationships differently... but in a self-actualization and positive way. Hey, you need to always protect yourself and your own happiness first right?
Welcome to the new order. YOU are #1, everything after that is secondary.
 

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As an attorney myself I can tell you that contrary to popular belief here on SS and in the world at large, we aren't all money-sucking fiends that are only out to benefit ourselves at the expense of our own clients. You attorney sounds like he/she is having a difficult time getting a hold of the other side which is technically not their fault. That forces them to use the court for intervention when you can't make simple agreements and that stretches out the proceedings exponentially. And please don't try to do the divorce yourself.

Now, as far as not letting it ruin your attitude, I have also been where you are. I wouldn't let it affect you. The divorce does not have a major impact on you day to day since you have no children together. Be thankful for that. Most women you are dating casually are not going to care. It can interfere with a potential LTR possibly but this is fresh enough you probably aren't thinking about that anyway.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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As an attorney myself I can tell you that contrary to popular belief here on SS and in the world at large, we aren't all money-sucking fiends that are only out to benefit ourselves at the expense of our own clients. You attorney sounds like he/she is having a difficult time getting a hold of the other side which is technically not their fault. That forces them to use the court for intervention when you can't make simple agreements and that stretches out the proceedings exponentially. And please don't try to do the divorce yourself.

Now, as far as not letting it ruin your attitude, I have also been where you are. I wouldn't let it affect you. The divorce does not have a major impact on you day to day since you have no children together. Be thankful for that. Most women you are dating casually are not going to care. It can interfere with a potential LTR possibly but this is fresh enough you probably aren't thinking about that anyway.






- This is a satire post by the way...
 

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What's up gentlemen.

I'm posting this for advice, but also just to get some stuff off my mind right now. Some of you may know my situation, but if not, I'll quickly recap: my wife and I separated in August. Marriage was just a mess and I found out she was seeing someone else (I was only married 3 years). Around this time a friend recommended TRM to me and it has been a life saver (as well as the help from all of you here on sosuave). For the first time in my life I feel happy again and like my old self, except this time I am armed with better knowledge from my mistakes. I know the type of person I want to be with, and what to avoid in my next relationship.

Anyways, who else here has gone through a divorce? I ended up having to get an attorney because my wife was acting irrational (shocker) and was threatening me every week that SHE would be getting one. We have NO kids, house was sold, and NO major assets to split up. This literally could of all been taken care of with a mediator... but you know.. women.

It has now been the better part of 5 months that we have been separated with still no divorce. She was supposed to get her financial documents in to my attorney (I served her) within 45 days. 4 months went by and NOTHING. A month ago my attorney sent hers a letter through certified mail. No reply. Just last week we filed a motion to compel giving her 7 days to get the documents in....still nothing. We are supposed to be having a zoom hearing regarding the motion to compel this Wednesday (if that even occurs).

The funny thing is, she has continued to text me occasionally throughout this time about random bullsh!t (filing our taxes this year, something that came in the mail, etc.) and has never once addressed the fact that she never got her documents in and could be sanctioned by the court. I have of course not mentioned this to her as this is my (and her) attorneys job to discuss.

I am trying to keep sight of my own happiness and sanity. I cannot let this dictate my life no matter how much it continues to drag on without her cooperation. For once, I have the power back in my life. I've hooked up with a few girls over the past few months (another date tonight) and it has been great. There was a point during the low of my marriage where I thought: "Is this really it? Am I just stuck with this non-affectionate, moody, insecure person for the rest of my life?" Needless to say, re-entering the game has felt like a resurrection.

Wondering if you guys have been through a similar situation. Hoping the grass is greener and within the next few months I can say I am 'officially' divorced.

Thanks boys.
What is TRM by the way? Struggling with some marital problems but hoping to avoid divorce.
 

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As an attorney myself I can tell you that contrary to popular belief here on SS and in the world at large, we aren't all money-sucking fiends that are only out to benefit ourselves at the expense of our own clients. You attorney sounds like he/she is having a difficult time getting a hold of the other side which is technically not their fault. That forces them to use the court for intervention when you can't make simple agreements and that stretches out the proceedings exponentially. And please don't try to do the divorce yourself.

Now, as far as not letting it ruin your attitude, I have also been where you are. I wouldn't let it affect you. The divorce does not have a major impact on you day to day since you have no children together. Be thankful for that. Most women you are dating casually are not going to care. It can interfere with a potential LTR possibly but this is fresh enough you probably aren't thinking about that anyway.
Very good advice @Barrister thanks buddy. Yeah, I'm just continuing to live my life, trust the process, and let my lawyer handle these things. My lawyer is a female too. When she lawyered up she got a woman, so I thought fight fire with fire haha.
 

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OP, I'm like you, was married about three years, no kids, got divorced.

I initiated the divorce. Though it broke my ex's heart, she was compliant with my wishes. We didn't own property either. So I paid a paralegal $600 to file the papers and that was that. Took about 4 months. BUT your wife sounds like she's not complying, so I think using an attorney is a better idea. Let him be the bulldog so that you can focus on self-improvement. This too shall pass, eventually you'll be legally free and you can put the whole thing in your rear view.

And I can say that the grass is definitely greener. I had a pretty good marriage but it was a drag for me, just kind of backed into it when I shouldn't have. I'm much happier as a divorced dude. In fact these days I see it as just another relationship I was in, a short period in my life and nowhere close to defining who I am.
We are very similar man! The part I bolded is EXACTLY how I have been seeing it. It's just a chapter of my life, a part that has come to an end.. time to move forward now. Even though I am still going through the divorce process, every passing day makes the whole 3 years of marriage seem more and more fleeting. Time to work on myself!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Divorced her in ‘18. Had 1.5 years of insane hedonistic adventures with girls a generation younger than me. Now I’m dating my ex-wife. Life makes no sense.
 

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We did it with no attorneys. Everyone I know who has used attorneys got raked over the coals with them billing them for every little thing and racking up 20-30K before all was said and done. They want nothing more than to drag it out and it make it as contentious as they can on both sides so the parties dig their heels in against each other and fight so they can go back and forth forever and make as much money as possible off them. It's a racket.

The most fooked up thing is that the only thing needed to get the ball rolling is for one side to say "I'm getting a lawyer" and it snowballs from there. I spent a pretty coin to keep the custody of my kinds, the money I could have spent on the kids.

Count yourself lucky you didn't have kinds with her. And for the future be damn sure about a women you have kids with. Of course it's easier said than done.
 

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As an attorney myself I can tell you that contrary to popular belief here on SS and in the world at large, we aren't all money-sucking fiends that are only out to benefit ourselves at the expense of our own clients. You attorney sounds like he/she is having a difficult time getting a hold of the other side which is technically not their fault. That forces them to use the court for intervention when you can't make simple agreements and that stretches out the proceedings exponentially. And please don't try to do the divorce yourself.

Now, as far as not letting it ruin your attitude, I have also been where you are. I wouldn't let it affect you. The divorce does not have a major impact on you day to day since you have no children together. Be thankful for that. Most women you are dating casually are not going to care. It can interfere with a potential LTR possibly but this is fresh enough you probably aren't thinking about that anyway.

I would not say that any individual attorney is like that, but the whole system is surely is and attorneys make a decent living out of it.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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