"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Discussion about Mixed Messages

Naters

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I wont go into specifics here, but what are some tips to filter through mixed messages and figure out what is actually being expressed by a girl?

For example, which of these hold the most value? least value?
Actions
Words
1st hand info
2nd hand info
Info from guy friends of girl
Info from girl friends of girl
Info from my guy friends
Info from my girl friends
Anything else you can think of

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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You pretty much put it in order there.. but I dunno some things are more valid with different people.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Naters said:
I wont go into specifics here, but what are some tips to filter through mixed messages and figure out what is actually being expressed by a girl?

For example, which of these hold the most value? least value?
Actions
Words
1st hand info
2nd hand info
Info from guy friends of girl
Info from girl friends of girl
Info from my guy friends
Info from my girl friends
Anything else you can think of

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  1. What she tells you after you ask her specific questions.
 

Plec07

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Actions for me. I rarely listen to/remember what they say anyway. I'm always paying all my attention to her body language.
 

Bvbidd

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Actions and mabye if your lucky what girl friend of her says.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Alkali

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Depends completely on the people.

Actions can be misleading if the girl is shy.

Friends might be treacherous, overzealous, etc.
 

cobrajoe

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Good luck actually making a list, in all the interactions I've had with women, I've never been able to make out any specific pattern at all.
 
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