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Dealing with declining libido as you age

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I've stayed pretty damn horny, even as I've aged (middle-aged now). What really makes the sex drive go into...overdrive (sorry), is flirting. But I think I'm somewhat of an outlier. My same aged friends clearly don't care about Pvssy anywhere near as much as I do. I'm not sure if one can do anything about it. My GF, who is very young, told me I was the 'horniest guy' she's ever been with. It's a two-edged sword. Since when I'm not getting any, I start to go nuts.
"Horny" usually means incredible bursts of brilliance and creativity...
 

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Agree with most of the ideas including exercise and continued usage to maintain.

There seems to be a two way connection between libido and erection. Usually we think about it as one way... libido leads to erection, however I notice that erection also leads to higher libido. When younger, I let some things physically slide causing erection to not work as well. At first I did not notice that, the first notice was libido... I am not an MD so don't know the mechanics of it, but something about erection or pre-erection increases libido, the erection and libido feed off of each other. One of the first places that vascular issue will show in a man is erection/libido. If your sure your T is ok and your Mind is ok as it relates then take a look at shockwave therapy. It can and does solve vascular & some nerve issue that does lead to massive improvements in erection and libido(think, like a teenager). You can just buy a machine online, NO need to pay the huge fees to a Dr. to do it for you.
Back on the use it or "lose it", the thoughts and use are important. Care to discuss more on this "shockwave therapy"? I'm curious to what it is and how it benefits us?
 

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Yet another question you bring up that I've also been contemplating. My theories may not apply to you (or others) but I'll share my personal theory on the subject.

After so many partners, I wonder if we become jaded.

Think about our youth and looking at the playboy centerfold. After several 'sessions' ... we usually become desensitized to the image and have to turn the page and look for another pose (or model) to achieve that 'end-result.'

For those of us that have been around the block, I wonder if the above also applies to real life interaction as well. I say this because (most) women I meet these days seem like a 'repeat' of women in my past. To give a further example, if we are channel surfing and come across a movie or TV show that reminds us of something we've watched before, (that is predictable) our interest/excitement is no where like it was upon the first encounter. Could this also apply with women? I think so.

Most of us have probably woken up in situations where our pointer did the thinking. The outcome in many cases. we came to realize... that it wasn't even worth the effort (sloppy sex, waking up sober with regret, clingy female etc..) . Those life experiences (even subconsciously) probably 'communicate' those remembrances and when faced with a new mediocre 'conquest' the subconscious may 'tame' the libido.

No problem also with E.D. here, but the libido is not where it was in my younger days.
 

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Yet another question you bring up that I've also been contemplating. My theories may not apply to you (or others) but I'll share my personal theory on the subject.

After so many partners, I wonder if we become jaded.

Think about our youth and looking at the playboy centerfold. After several 'sessions' ... we usually become desensitized to the image and have to turn the page and look for another pose (or model) to achieve that 'end-result.'

For those of us that have been around the block, I wonder if the above also applies to real life interaction as well. I say this because (most) women I meet these days seem like a 'repeat' of women in my past. To give a further example, if we are channel surfing and come across a movie or TV show that reminds us of something we've watched before, (that is predictable) our interest/excitement is no where like it was upon the first encounter. Could this also apply with women? I think so.

Most of us have probably woken up in situations where our pointer did the thinking. The outcome in many cases. we came to realize... that it wasn't even worth the effort (sloppy sex, waking up sober with regret, clingy female etc..) . Those life experiences (even subconsciously) probably 'communicate' those remembrances and when faced with a new mediocre 'conquest' the subconscious may 'tame' the libido.

No problem also with E.D. here, but the libido is not where it was in my younger days.
That "firey" libido which could not be "controlled". Also coupled with an intense non stop imagination which was limitless. Does real life and the brainwashing that occurs daily reduce it over time?
 

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After so many partners, I wonder if we become jaded.
Yeah, I think so. After dozen of hot chicks, you don't see them the same way. They become the usual. You can try whites, blacks, asians, big boobs, small boobs, anal, threesomes, but after a while it's still going to be the same and if they are not flirting or playful it's a big turn off.

I'd say, as long as you are satisfied with everything your tried and you experienced enough, you are fine. It's not going to bother you that much. Things get a bit more platonic I guess.

I relate to pretty much everything that was said in this thread. I get horny when the girl is flirty but then if she's too much into it it's also a turn off. If I have to push for it too hard it's a big turn off also. But I still get hard, I last much longer, I don't orgasm every time though, sometimes girls don't understand why and they think they are not good enough. It's funny to see the turning tide actually. I've had girls sucking my dck and nothing happened and they were like WTF? Most of the time, I can't come anymore if the girl is on top. I have to see her ass and her boobs moving, I have to fck them hard otherwise it's not happening.

Speaking of the turning tide, a lady I dated a few years ago, 48, much older than me, told me that she regretted a lot her bitchy years when she rejected so many men. Because now she is too old for them, but they still fck young girls, and young men don't want to s3x her anymore (she's super hot so I didn't care) but she's still horny. A lot of these women deep dive into sport and surgery to get back in shape but it's a bit late.
 

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Back on the use it or "lose it", the thoughts and use are important. Care to discuss more on this "shockwave therapy"? I'm curious to what it is and how it benefits us?
sure, erection requires strong blood flow and working nerve, and mental controls or emotions and other chemicals and hormones to be in working ranges. The blood flow part can be improved by exercise if the veins and arteries in the path are ok, meaning not clogged. It is not uncommon for a man in terrific shape strong muscle to have heart or blood flow issues. We can read all about shockwave for ED, just see google. The small machine is a little larger than an electric toothbrush but heavy like a drill. It works like a jackhammer and sends audio pressure shock waves into the penis tissue (not painful). You just move it 5 or 10 different places around your shaft, making sure to get the deep supply lines at the base. This will actually break up some of the plaque build up in the veins and artery and at the same time very slightly disturb the soft tissue causing it to generate additional new small veins. Also will multiply the working nerve sensors. The result after 5 to 15, 20 minute sessions taking maybe about a month can be restoration and also some size increase while erect. The size increase is due to addition very small veins that have grown. You can many youtube vids on how to do it. I was amazed at the results. The reports also talk about how the sonic disturbance will summon stem cells to the location to aid in the repair. I don't understand enough of the medical part to tell about that, but I do know that it really works. I paid about 5 hundred for the machine, there are some much more expensive however I am sure that the one I have works really well. Amazon has a selection.

If you just get the machine you can do some additional sessions occasionally in case the plaque builds again. Reports that you can find in google tell that for men that have no problem, they often notice improvements from this treatment. No bad side effects or any negatives that I know of except for the cost to buy it. Optionally you can pay thousands to a clinic to do it for you, again can find in google.

The knocking of the plaque occures right away, the reibuilding of vessels and nerves a few weeks to a couple months. As will all things, results can vary.
 

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sure, erection requires strong blood flow and working nerve, and mental controls or emotions and other chemicals and hormones to be in working ranges. The blood flow part can be improved by exercise if the veins and arteries in the path are ok, meaning not clogged. It is not uncommon for a man in terrific shape strong muscle to have heart or blood flow issues. We can read all about shockwave for ED, just see google. The small machine is a little larger than an electric toothbrush but heavy like a drill. It works like a jackhammer and sends audio pressure shock waves into the penis tissue (not painful). You just move it 5 or 10 different places around your shaft, making sure to get the deep supply lines at the base. This will actually break up some of the plaque build up in the veins and artery and at the same time very slightly disturb the soft tissue causing it to generate additional new small veins. Also will multiply the working nerve sensors. The result after 5 to 15, 20 minute sessions taking maybe about a month can be restoration and also some size increase while erect. The size increase is due to addition very small veins that have grown. You can many youtube vids on how to do it. I was amazed at the results. The reports also talk about how the sonic disturbance will summon stem cells to the location to aid in the repair. I don't understand enough of the medical part to tell about that, but I do know that it really works. I paid about 5 hundred for the machine, there are some much more expensive however I am sure that the one I have works really well. Amazon has a selection.

If you just get the machine you can do some additional sessions occasionally in case the plaque builds again. Reports that you can find in google tell that for men that have no problem, they often notice improvements from this treatment. No bad side effects or any negatives that I know of except for the cost to buy it. Optionally you can pay thousands to a clinic to do it for you, again can find in google.

The knocking of the plaque occures right away, the reibuilding of vessels and nerves a few weeks to a couple months. As will all things, results can vary.
VERY GOOD!!!! Certain UV light wavelengths also cause micro capillary growth/regrowth and other techniques can be combined to give a better than stock erection quality. Blood flow is king! Relaxation too.
 

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That's all ED drugs do at the end of the day. Assure better blood flow to your d!ck. I haven't tried any yet as it feels like a copout at my age but then again I do have practically no testosterone of my own to work with anymore. Nature's a cvnt.
 

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That's all ED drugs do at the end of the day. Assure better blood flow to your d!ck. I haven't tried any yet as it feels like a copout at my age but then again I do have practically no testosterone of my own to work with anymore. Nature's a cvnt.
Did you have a period of time where you had a sex drought? The older we get the worse the consequences of a drought. Theres no guarantee your sex life returns that strong.

Get a sexy enough gf that likes to give it up.
 

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I've had several droughts, the longest lasting 3 and a half years, but that was before my nut went to heaven. It was my fault as I turned down good looking girls for being drunk or having a boyfriend. Stupid ethics.

Even with both nuts I had little enthusiasm for girls who didn't fire my imagination. It took a while for me to become as aggressive in the bedroom as I am now. I don't have a choice about that anymore as any soft lovey-dovey crap instantly gives me a softie, too.

The problem with girls who I really like is that they can easily lead to a oneitis.

Abundance is everything.
 

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If both a man and a woman are always and only focused on each other, their fire may burn bright, but it will consume them both.

If both the man and woman are focused on the world, there is only cohabitation.

If the man is focused on the woman, and the woman is focused on the world, the man will be consumed by his desire for her, and by his own insecurity.

If the woman is focused on the man, and the man is focused on the world, then there's hope for a sustainable relationship.

Oneitis is fatal for a man, unless the woman had already surrendered completely to him...but even then, he needs to be always focused outward. The marriage/relationship/home can be her mission, but it can't be his.
A very insightful and brief summary there of relationship dynamics. Having been through ALL of them, I would completely agree with your assessment but add one critical point and that is to make it work, not only does the man have to be focused on the world and the woman focused on her man, the man must reframe his interpretation of the nagging that his woman will usually exude when put into this type of relationship dynamic. When a woman is focused on the man and the man is focused on the world, the woman’s craving for him will be relentless and it will manifest itself (in my experience) as complaining in many forms. “You aren’t present! You aren’t vulnerable! You don’t show me you like me.” Even if all those things are false! The reframe is to not be annoyed by it but to see it as her wanting to feel and experience your masculine strength and power, in a loving way, which is achieved in how you handle and respond to her whining.

This is all OT from the point of the thread but your summary resonated with me because I have been focusing on this kind of reframe a lot recently.

But I still get hard, I last much longer, I don't orgasm every time though, sometimes girls don't understand why and they think they are not good enough. It's funny to see the turning tide actually. I've had girls sucking my dck and nothing happened and they were like WTF?
Yeah I experience the same thing too. Aside from my wishing I could orgasm every time, I would have to say that NOT doing so has had a net-positive impact on my sex life for the reasons you describe. It really does seem to turn the tables. And when you do, it turns them on all the more. Plus it’s obviously easier to stay hard and go multiple rounds with her when you don’t orgasm each time. From what the girls I have slept with tell me, it’s very unusual for guys to last as long and go as often as me, but I simply attribute that to not orgasming every time. So you could definitely say it’s a positive thing.
 

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I've had several droughts, the longest lasting 3 and a half years, but that was before my nut went to heaven. It was my fault as I turned down good looking girls for being drunk or having a boyfriend. Stupid ethics.

Even with both nuts I had little enthusiasm for girls who didn't fire my imagination. It took a while for me to become as aggressive in the bedroom as I am now. I don't have a choice about that anymore as any soft lovey-dovey crap instantly gives me a softie, too.

The problem with girls who I really like is that they can easily lead to a oneitis.

Abundance is everything.
The "drought" affects your image to yourself. Also to any onlookers who may see you in a "starved" state, that's the attention you get. So while "image isn't everything", it can matter greatly and shouldn't be allowed to be trashed out.
 

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I'm on day 218 of NOFAP it has changed my life
My sex drive the last few years was going down too mainly due to porn and not being healthy (which im still working on)
Long story short started no fap
First 30 days--energy is amazing
FIrst 60 days-Libido comes back the same as 25
I also did 59 days of Semen retention--more interest from women, more present mentally,
I started having regular sex again etc.

Recently things ended with the girl I'm seeing still on nofap but now doing semen retention again

I highly recommend it for anyone, Porn is the devil and is ruining men's lives
Are you fvcking like a champ young king?
 

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Not so much related but have to add your brain can do two things. Realize you're getting old and if you are alone or with a partner. Put it simply we are the pez pack. Once used up how would nugenix. Or even based out maca powder help out with a little test increase. Guys what I would invest in is in your womans fertility drugs. Best scenario your wife puts out twins. Quite an experience must say...
 

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When a woman complains about what you aren't giving her (time, attention, sex, etc), it only means she wants more YOU.
When a woman complains about what you ARE giving her, she wants less of YOU (and probably more of someone else).
Could you guys please elaborate more on these things? This is a very interesting topic!
How could one differentiate which one of the cases it is? Imagine the woman is nagging you about not spending enough time with her but in fact you do spend (according to yourself) a lot of time with her. I think this scenario is the positive one("she wants more YOU") but I cant think of a the other scenario. Maybe if you buy her flowers on the valentines day and she says that they are not as good as the last time you got her flowers?
 

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Are you fvcking like a champ young king?
The truth is if you do semen retention for too long I don't care who you are, you gonna buss, and buss fast.
That first nut after 49+ days was so intense that my body shut down and took a 2 hour nap, the release of energy is real

Right now on No Fap and trying to utilize that extra energy to be productive with my social media channel etc
 

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Semen retention does heighten your focus, and it will raise testosterone levels a bit. When I was on semen retention, I believe it's best to allow semen to pass ( preferably thru actual intercourse ) at least once or twice a week for prostate health!

A trick that I learned was to get head right up to the point of orgasm, but hold off. Let her raise it back to this point again several times. Then throw on my gym clothes and go get my workout. My focus and attention would be heightened and aggression on the KNIFE EDGE. Let the nut out after earning the right to do so after putting in some good work.
 

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Alcohol for some reason boosts my libido, in particular the morning after (hungover) or the very early stages of drinking

Being drunk has the opposite effect tho
 

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I started taking Boron supplements to reduce my SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)....SHBG binds to Free Testosterone making it less available.....

Free Testosterone is more important than Total Testosterone....

The results became noticeable within 1 day....
Forgot to ask. Won't this kill the hairline though?

I think I'm right in saying we've both had transplants

Don't wanna lose ground up there
 

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Forgot to ask. Won't this kill the hairline though?

I think I'm right in saying we've both had transplants

Don't wanna lose ground up there
Excessive boron levels may lead to increase in hair loss for guys are prone to it....

.....it's the curse of being a man:

A) want high testosterone, more sex drive, more energy? Okay, sacrifice your hair....

B) wanna keep your hair? Okay, sacrifice your testosterone....

I've had to reduce my boron intake to every other day to keep my SHBG levels low while not shedding hair....
 
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