"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dating Viability for Men in their 40s

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What honestly concerns me is that many say the ideal women to get is is someone in her 20s with a low lay count.. but if many screen out much older guys how is this viable?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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…with that feminine mindset you have, no.

Men value youth and beauty.

Women value experience.

If you recognise the value men have for women then you’ll have the answer. If you don’t believe you are worthy, then you are not worthy. If you want to be young and smooth for women then you should wax your legs and your ass, take steroids and be a chode.
Yeah positive thinking and reality aren't always the same. Whatever helps you sleep better at night though...
 

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For LTR it's going to be very difficult for a 45 year old man to date a 24 year old, too awkward for the younger one to introduce you to friends and especially family, you will be close in age to her parents.

For pump n dumps, fwb and flings however, there are plenty of damaged chicks even 18-22 with daddy and past abuse and trauma issues that would gladly jump on for a ride.

While true that for the most part you have to look younger than your age, be in good shape and have your act together, especially for the ltr, for the pump n dumps it isn't as important.

Also, there are plenty of young females that do like the silver fox look of an older man, look how popular the guy from The Last of Us is right now.

Also , check out age gap personals reddit
 

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If you've put in the work in your 20s and 30s, then 40s are part of your prime, dating wise.
I received shockingly little resistance from younger girls when I was in my 40s.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If you've put in the work in your 20s and 30s, then 40s are part of your prime, dating wise.
I received shockingly little resistance from younger girls when I was in my 40s.
That's because you did not have to rely on OLD to meet women. With OLD you can automatically screen yourself out when you put your age on your profile.
 

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That's because you did not have to rely on OLD to meet women. With OLD you can automatically screen yourself out when you put your age on your profile.
That's entirely true, I would imagine.
 

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That's entirely true, I would imagine.
Being 40+ is likely going to filter you out of results for most women 18-29 on a swipe app. I wouldn't recommend lying about age either. It's better to try to meet people in person.

In order to get an age gap of 7+ years, the man has to be impressive in some way. The bigger the age gap, the more impressive the man needs to be and money is usually the bigger issue. It is easier to get a 7 year age difference than a 15 year difference.
 

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I wouldn't recommend lying about age either.
You posted another thread where you said that a guy who was cheating on his fiancee and lying about his first name was practicing great game. You would recommend for people to lie about their first name, but not their age? Why would you give advice to shut people out of the market and not reach their potential with OLD but then encourage people to cheat in relationships if they can get away with it?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You have 3 options

Handsome Gang Game--You look great for your age and younger women are attracted

Social Circle Game- Your'e part of a social circle game that has younger women in it

Tricking game-This is what 90% of men resort to over the age of 40 where you pay for it

Or option 4

Porker game-you get younger chicks but they chubbies or fatties

Cheer
 

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You have 3 options

Handsome Gang Game--You look great for your age and younger women are attracted

Social Circle Game- Your'e part of a social circle game that has younger women in it

Tricking game-This is what 90% of men resort to over the age of 40 where you pay for it

Or option 4

Porker game-you get younger chicks but they chubbies or fatties

Cheer
Great post and very true. I remember you from 2008. I was on here but used another name. Back in the Rollo days. I enjoyed reading your posts back then and enjoy them now.
 

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You have 3 options

Handsome Gang Game--You look great for your age and younger women are attracted

Social Circle Game- Your'e part of a social circle game that has younger women in it

Tricking game-This is what 90% of men resort to over the age of 40 where you pay for it

Or option 4

Porker game-you get younger chicks but they chubbies or fatties

Cheer
yep!
 

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Pretty good odds. Most women in their 20s are dating men in their 30s and 40s.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Are you asking for a "friend"?

You can't ask general questions like that. Is like asking do women at 40 have nice boobs? Everyone matures differently, some are external factors you can't control, and some you absolutely can.

Since this thread is about you, let's cut through the bushes and talk about you. What do you have going for yourself?

How are your finances?
How are your investments?
How is your career/business?
How is your portfolio?

How is your health?
How is your physique?
How is your fitness?
How is your appearance?

What is your lifestyle?

What is your mindset?

How is your game?

Are you walking your path/following and fulfilling your path?

Do you genuinely love yourself?

Do you enjoy your own company?

Do you feel a sense of happiness nothing and no one can take?

And I can go on forever...
 
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2 weeks ago I chatted up 2 different sets of girls, 24 and 26, I pretended to both sets I was 30. It's not a big jump, I'm trying to secure a bit younger though. Conversely, me and a friend chat up 2 birds at a bus stop at the weekend who were 19/20 - both said they were married lol.
 

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Let's just use 45 as an example...

How likely is it to procure a woman of prime age between 24-27?
According to statistics from all the dating sites men at age 50 do the best with women. According to data sets women 21-24 are at peak desirability and men age 50 are peak. There's lots of news articles about this.

I'm 40 and I just view it as in 10 years I'll be in my prime. I look young. But I have lots of young women interested in me. Some 18 years old. So basically if you think your low value because your old then you are. If you think your high value because your old... you are.
 

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According to statistics from all the dating sites men at age 50 do the best with women. According to data sets women 21-24 are at peak desirability and men age 50 are peak. There's lots of news articles about this.

I'm 40 and I just view it as in 10 years I'll be in my prime. I look young. But I have lots of young women interested in me. Some 18 years old. So basically if you think your low value because your old then you are. If you think your high value because your old... you are.
I wonder if they factored in the number of people and how that influences the data. The less 50yo men you have on the site, the better a guys chances, which might lead one to believe that peak male desirability is at 50. Thats not exactly accurate.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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