I was on a third date, we were at her place and she asked if I mind if she smokes, I said I don't care. We are kissing after and the taste is kind of gross. What do I say if or when It happens again? She only smokes 3 or 4 a day, she didn't smoke on the first two dates. I've dated light smokers before, they must have used mouthwash or something because I usually didn't notice.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Dating a girl who smokes
- Thread starter Willard
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
This is a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't even go out on a date with a girl if I knew she smoked. Don't expect her to stop. Maybe she will a few times around you but don't expect to change her long term. Probably best you decide if you can live with it or not and go from there.
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Personally, I never date women who smoke. Once I find out, I eject. Hazardous to your health and just the constant smell of cigarettes on them, in their house, in their mouth and breath, yellow teeth, faster aging...ugh. Not for me.
You don't do or say anything to her. You decide if you can live with all these negatives or not. Simple.
You don't do or say anything to her. You decide if you can live with all these negatives or not. Simple.
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That's a definite deal breaker, and like altec said don't expect her to stop. Usually the women who are smoking have other bad habits, and don't care about the damage it causes.
The younger they are, the worse they tend to be. The ones who are smoking that were brought up with all the anti-smoking campigns that still chose to do it, are trouble. They're constantly chasing a thrill/high and won't stop. A lot of them can't, and end up addicted to cigarettes and alcohol by their early 20s. It's sad, but I know several women like this.
If she's into wilder habits like smoking, stay away. In general if the chick is wilder than you, you'll never be able to keep up.
The younger they are, the worse they tend to be. The ones who are smoking that were brought up with all the anti-smoking campigns that still chose to do it, are trouble. They're constantly chasing a thrill/high and won't stop. A lot of them can't, and end up addicted to cigarettes and alcohol by their early 20s. It's sad, but I know several women like this.
If she's into wilder habits like smoking, stay away. In general if the chick is wilder than you, you'll never be able to keep up.
Did you bang her yet Willard? She should hold off the smokes until the date is over. Tell her straight out you prefer that she doesn't smoke in your presence. You're the man, so set the rules to your liking. If she breaks them and does it anyway, drop her since she broke your rules. At least fvck her once since you put in the effort for the 3 dates.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Thanks guys for the advice, it's probably best to drop her.
I think I will take your advice, I didn't bang her yet, I'm pretty sure she is following the third date bang rule, she is counting the days, the first meeting she doesn't consider a date since I was hanging with her and her friends.MAYALL said:
Willard said:
Make this next date count for the lay. Never put up with sh1t from women you don't want to. Just tell them what you expect. If they can't follow simple rules, that's a woman you don't want around. Since she smokes, it will be a problem kissing her with smokers breath if you move any farther. Good luck man and bang her hard.
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Blah...dealbreaker...kissing is HORRIBLE with girls who smoke.