"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Date tomorrow, need help

nonchalant

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I have a date tomorrow, and would like it to go well. I have been thinking about my game, I approach no problem, have done some solid work with my inner game and working on my life goals, I am able to get dates fairly consistently, although that could improve a little I guess - but my biggest problem at this point is day2's.

The last date I had - honestly, I walked away from it thinking to myself 'that was my best day2 performance yet'. I was C+F, I smiled, was dressed nicely and was presentable, eye contact was good, I felt we had good rapport, made her laugh, etc. Imagine my surprise when I call her back a few days later and she doesn't return my call. I honestly though I was in.

Give me some pointers. I need to work on converting more of my day2's to day3's. I've gone out with some quality women, I just don't know what I'm doing on these dates to make them flake when I call for a day3.

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I wrote a little of that date in my latest blog entry, but still pretty general. I don't write scripts of everything that was said anymore. If you feel like you need more info to give specific advice, I'd just appreciate any general pointers about day2's and any routines that have worked well for you.
 

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Generic advice for dates:

1. Always have FUN!

2. Get into the mind set that she's a lucky girl to be able to date a guy like you.

3. Date multiple women, so you have "fall-back" options.

4. Always look good, be sexual and joke around a lot.

5. Ask tons of questions.

6. Tell funny stories.

7. and in case you missed it the first time... HAVE FUN! :)
 

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Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?
 

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Vypros said:
Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?

I haven't been kino'ing, no. I need a lot of work with kino, still seems unnatural to me especially on the first date.

The last two have been -

1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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nonchalant said:
1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
lol @ Mcdonalds. did you honestly expect that one to go well? lol

Anyways, try going for more active dates. Get her moving. You're going to be much more successful when you DO instead of when you TALK.
 

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nonchalant said:
Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
 

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nonchalant said:
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
He's right. Get a personality.
 

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Game cannot be learned last minute.

That's like asking to learn experience last minute. How the hell is that possible?

The best advice is to "be yourself". Just relax and do whatever you can. If being yourself sucks ass then you need to change. And no, you cannot do that in 5 minutes.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Vypros said:
He's right. Get a personality.

I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
 

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nonchalant said:
I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
All I have are your posts.

Your post said this:

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well
You shouldn't need a routine at all. You shouldn't need new material at all. People who need routines and material to get women, lack very basic social skills. It's a simple fact.

I'm not cutting you down either. I'm trying to help you see that you don't NEED that kind of stuff. Better yourself, that's all I'm saying.
 
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