"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Date tomorrow, need help

nonchalant

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I have a date tomorrow, and would like it to go well. I have been thinking about my game, I approach no problem, have done some solid work with my inner game and working on my life goals, I am able to get dates fairly consistently, although that could improve a little I guess - but my biggest problem at this point is day2's.

The last date I had - honestly, I walked away from it thinking to myself 'that was my best day2 performance yet'. I was C+F, I smiled, was dressed nicely and was presentable, eye contact was good, I felt we had good rapport, made her laugh, etc. Imagine my surprise when I call her back a few days later and she doesn't return my call. I honestly though I was in.

Give me some pointers. I need to work on converting more of my day2's to day3's. I've gone out with some quality women, I just don't know what I'm doing on these dates to make them flake when I call for a day3.

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I wrote a little of that date in my latest blog entry, but still pretty general. I don't write scripts of everything that was said anymore. If you feel like you need more info to give specific advice, I'd just appreciate any general pointers about day2's and any routines that have worked well for you.
 

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Generic advice for dates:

1. Always have FUN!

2. Get into the mind set that she's a lucky girl to be able to date a guy like you.

3. Date multiple women, so you have "fall-back" options.

4. Always look good, be sexual and joke around a lot.

5. Ask tons of questions.

6. Tell funny stories.

7. and in case you missed it the first time... HAVE FUN! :)
 

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Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?
 

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Vypros said:
Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?

I haven't been kino'ing, no. I need a lot of work with kino, still seems unnatural to me especially on the first date.

The last two have been -

1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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nonchalant said:
1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
lol @ Mcdonalds. did you honestly expect that one to go well? lol

Anyways, try going for more active dates. Get her moving. You're going to be much more successful when you DO instead of when you TALK.
 

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nonchalant said:
Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
 

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nonchalant said:
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
He's right. Get a personality.
 

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Game cannot be learned last minute.

That's like asking to learn experience last minute. How the hell is that possible?

The best advice is to "be yourself". Just relax and do whatever you can. If being yourself sucks ass then you need to change. And no, you cannot do that in 5 minutes.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Vypros said:
He's right. Get a personality.

I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
 

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nonchalant said:
I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
All I have are your posts.

Your post said this:

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well
You shouldn't need a routine at all. You shouldn't need new material at all. People who need routines and material to get women, lack very basic social skills. It's a simple fact.

I'm not cutting you down either. I'm trying to help you see that you don't NEED that kind of stuff. Better yourself, that's all I'm saying.
 
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