Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Date tomorrow, need help

nonchalant

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I have a date tomorrow, and would like it to go well. I have been thinking about my game, I approach no problem, have done some solid work with my inner game and working on my life goals, I am able to get dates fairly consistently, although that could improve a little I guess - but my biggest problem at this point is day2's.

The last date I had - honestly, I walked away from it thinking to myself 'that was my best day2 performance yet'. I was C+F, I smiled, was dressed nicely and was presentable, eye contact was good, I felt we had good rapport, made her laugh, etc. Imagine my surprise when I call her back a few days later and she doesn't return my call. I honestly though I was in.

Give me some pointers. I need to work on converting more of my day2's to day3's. I've gone out with some quality women, I just don't know what I'm doing on these dates to make them flake when I call for a day3.

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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nonchalant

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I wrote a little of that date in my latest blog entry, but still pretty general. I don't write scripts of everything that was said anymore. If you feel like you need more info to give specific advice, I'd just appreciate any general pointers about day2's and any routines that have worked well for you.
 

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Generic advice for dates:

1. Always have FUN!

2. Get into the mind set that she's a lucky girl to be able to date a guy like you.

3. Date multiple women, so you have "fall-back" options.

4. Always look good, be sexual and joke around a lot.

5. Ask tons of questions.

6. Tell funny stories.

7. and in case you missed it the first time... HAVE FUN! :)
 

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Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?
 

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Vypros said:
Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?

I haven't been kino'ing, no. I need a lot of work with kino, still seems unnatural to me especially on the first date.

The last two have been -

1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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nonchalant said:
1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
lol @ Mcdonalds. did you honestly expect that one to go well? lol

Anyways, try going for more active dates. Get her moving. You're going to be much more successful when you DO instead of when you TALK.
 

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nonchalant said:
Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
 

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nonchalant said:
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
He's right. Get a personality.
 

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Game cannot be learned last minute.

That's like asking to learn experience last minute. How the hell is that possible?

The best advice is to "be yourself". Just relax and do whatever you can. If being yourself sucks ass then you need to change. And no, you cannot do that in 5 minutes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Vypros said:
He's right. Get a personality.

I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
 

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nonchalant said:
I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
All I have are your posts.

Your post said this:

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well
You shouldn't need a routine at all. You shouldn't need new material at all. People who need routines and material to get women, lack very basic social skills. It's a simple fact.

I'm not cutting you down either. I'm trying to help you see that you don't NEED that kind of stuff. Better yourself, that's all I'm saying.
 
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