"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I have a date tomorrow, and would like it to go well. I have been thinking about my game, I approach no problem, have done some solid work with my inner game and working on my life goals, I am able to get dates fairly consistently, although that could improve a little I guess - but my biggest problem at this point is day2's.

The last date I had - honestly, I walked away from it thinking to myself 'that was my best day2 performance yet'. I was C+F, I smiled, was dressed nicely and was presentable, eye contact was good, I felt we had good rapport, made her laugh, etc. Imagine my surprise when I call her back a few days later and she doesn't return my call. I honestly though I was in.

Give me some pointers. I need to work on converting more of my day2's to day3's. I've gone out with some quality women, I just don't know what I'm doing on these dates to make them flake when I call for a day3.

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I wrote a little of that date in my latest blog entry, but still pretty general. I don't write scripts of everything that was said anymore. If you feel like you need more info to give specific advice, I'd just appreciate any general pointers about day2's and any routines that have worked well for you.
 

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Generic advice for dates:

1. Always have FUN!

2. Get into the mind set that she's a lucky girl to be able to date a guy like you.

3. Date multiple women, so you have "fall-back" options.

4. Always look good, be sexual and joke around a lot.

5. Ask tons of questions.

6. Tell funny stories.

7. and in case you missed it the first time... HAVE FUN! :)
 

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Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?
 

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Vypros said:
Are you escalating the physical aspects of the dates?

Secondly, what types of dates are you going on?

I haven't been kino'ing, no. I need a lot of work with kino, still seems unnatural to me especially on the first date.

The last two have been -

1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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nonchalant said:
1. order food and watch a movie at my place (this one went well, as in - action, but I put in a lot of work beforehand)

2. take her to MacDonalds and talk (variation on the coffee date, this did not go too well).

3. took her to a bar and had a drink/talked
lol @ Mcdonalds. did you honestly expect that one to go well? lol

Anyways, try going for more active dates. Get her moving. You're going to be much more successful when you DO instead of when you TALK.
 

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nonchalant said:
Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well.
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Jesus pete, get a personality and then go on dates.

"Routines"

"Material"

You're not a stand up comedian.
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
 

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nonchalant said:
lol

a guy with 1900 posts is telling me about how to act in the field. How about you get off the internet?
He's right. Get a personality.
 

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Game cannot be learned last minute.

That's like asking to learn experience last minute. How the hell is that possible?

The best advice is to "be yourself". Just relax and do whatever you can. If being yourself sucks ass then you need to change. And no, you cannot do that in 5 minutes.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Vypros said:
He's right. Get a personality.

I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
 

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nonchalant said:
I'm not routine based, but I use them once in a while. What about you stop making assumptions about things you don't know about?
All I have are your posts.

Your post said this:

Also - if you have any good routines, post them here. I need some new material as well
You shouldn't need a routine at all. You shouldn't need new material at all. People who need routines and material to get women, lack very basic social skills. It's a simple fact.

I'm not cutting you down either. I'm trying to help you see that you don't NEED that kind of stuff. Better yourself, that's all I'm saying.
 
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