idiot_boyfriend
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
hi, this is my first post. i've been reading this board for a couple weeks ever since bein dumped and am trying to get back on my feet. great material of course
just want to ask...
howcome no one mentioned taking your date to a zoo??
girls love animals, or at least some.
or is it not a good idea
just want to ask...
howcome no one mentioned taking your date to a zoo??
girls love animals, or at least some.
or is it not a good idea
arutha
Senior Don Juan
Probably worth considering.. Could be a lot of fun.
I tried ice skating the other day, that was hell good. Will definitely be using it in future, it was lots of fun for both of us. My legs hurt like hell from falling over all the timewhile trying to do stuff that was way beyond my skill level though.
Oh well, it was a laugh.
I tried ice skating the other day, that was hell good. Will definitely be using it in future, it was lots of fun for both of us. My legs hurt like hell from falling over all the timewhile trying to do stuff that was way beyond my skill level though.
Oh well, it was a laugh.arutha
Senior Don Juan
Walking through a forest or something, where you are exploring in nature is indeed great. I've done that too, it gets girls relaxed and in a great mood. Perfect time to pull the first kiss on her.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Go Sledding. Its almost winter, so at night find a hill and go sledding! I did this tons of times last winter with different girls and its the best thing to do at night when you can't think of anything else. You can playfully wrestle the girl in the snow.... which leads to other great stuff... After go get a cup of hot chocolate.
Go Ice Blocking. If you don't have snow, go ice blocking. Go to your nearest grocery store and grab a block of ice. Find a steep hill, put a towel on top of the ice (so your ass doesn't get wet), sit on it, and ride down the hill. becareful though, i've known people that have broken bones doing this.
Go tubing (without snow). Another idea if there is no snow... it works best with a big group of crazy people. Get 2 of those big black tubes some people use for tubing. Duck tape them together like a giant double donut (make sure you did a good job). Find a steep hill, get inside and squeeze tight so you can't move.... and roll down the hill. This can get pretty fukin crazy!
Go fourwheeling. Get a fourwheeler for each couple (ensuring some nice physical contact), pack a lunch in the cooler and go ride somwhere nice in the mountains. Find a nice scenic place to stop and have lunch.
Go site seeing. In my city we have stuff like the "old abandoned childrens hospital" or "the pet cemetary" or "elizabeth smarts house" or "gravity hill". We'll go around and visit all these scary places. and then at the end of the night, our last stop will be make-out point.
Do a scavenger hunt. Get a big group of people, a camera (you have to film everything you do), set a time limit, set teams, and put some of these on your list of things to do...
get pulled over 5pts
kiss somebody 1pts
get naked 5pts
buy condoms 2pts
buy tampons 2pts
moon your rival school 3pts
go 100mph for 10 seconds 4pts
and so on.... modify the list however you like. Go back to someones house and watch all the crazy videos, add up the points and the team with the most, wins a prize!
just adding some fun stuff that i've done before.
Go Ice Blocking. If you don't have snow, go ice blocking. Go to your nearest grocery store and grab a block of ice. Find a steep hill, put a towel on top of the ice (so your ass doesn't get wet), sit on it, and ride down the hill. becareful though, i've known people that have broken bones doing this.
Go tubing (without snow). Another idea if there is no snow... it works best with a big group of crazy people. Get 2 of those big black tubes some people use for tubing. Duck tape them together like a giant double donut (make sure you did a good job). Find a steep hill, get inside and squeeze tight so you can't move.... and roll down the hill. This can get pretty fukin crazy!
Go fourwheeling. Get a fourwheeler for each couple (ensuring some nice physical contact), pack a lunch in the cooler and go ride somwhere nice in the mountains. Find a nice scenic place to stop and have lunch.
Go site seeing. In my city we have stuff like the "old abandoned childrens hospital" or "the pet cemetary" or "elizabeth smarts house" or "gravity hill". We'll go around and visit all these scary places. and then at the end of the night, our last stop will be make-out point.
Do a scavenger hunt. Get a big group of people, a camera (you have to film everything you do), set a time limit, set teams, and put some of these on your list of things to do...
get pulled over 5pts
kiss somebody 1pts
get naked 5pts
buy condoms 2pts
buy tampons 2pts
moon your rival school 3pts
go 100mph for 10 seconds 4pts
and so on.... modify the list however you like. Go back to someones house and watch all the crazy videos, add up the points and the team with the most, wins a prize!
just adding some fun stuff that i've done before.
Ok this is pretty cool, and interesting, but I have a problem.
I mean I am new to town, but I do know a few people, and stuff. There is this one girl, and she's also new, from England. I am going to get a date with her sometime soon, and I don't know what's fun to do?
I mean you probaly don't know anything about my town. lol.
But is there something that English people enjoy? I don't know if she is a prude, I doubt it, but she's real quiet. She had no problem giving me her number, and I was going to take her to homecumming, no pun intended, but I already have plans.
So any ideas? I guess I could ask around, and find out what is fun?
I am kind of nervous, I mean I will probaly just go to a movie. lol. idk.
I mean I am new to town, but I do know a few people, and stuff. There is this one girl, and she's also new, from England. I am going to get a date with her sometime soon, and I don't know what's fun to do?
I mean you probaly don't know anything about my town. lol.
But is there something that English people enjoy? I don't know if she is a prude, I doubt it, but she's real quiet. She had no problem giving me her number, and I was going to take her to homecumming, no pun intended,
but I already have plans. So any ideas? I guess I could ask around, and find out what is fun?
I am kind of nervous, I mean I will probaly just go to a movie. lol. idk.
hey man - heres some help - STRAIGHT from the UK. I think ENglish girls'll like the same as American yo. Dnt take her to the moviers try somewhere like a park or walk round some quiet streets - go exploring.
DO something where YOU will be what she's going on the date for.
Good Luck
Muphaser
DO something where YOU will be what she's going on the date for.
Good Luck
Muphaser
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Not hating or disrespecting but that is f*ckd up. .Anyhow all this date ideas is cool and all but alot of it is limited by our age becuase not everybody have their licence(which suck ass). But overall a good post.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
arutha
Senior Don Juan
Use public transport, thats what I do..
Or find a girl a bit older than you with a license and let her drive you everywhere, another thing I've done. Its great! Nice opportunity for ****y/funny comments about her driving...
Or find a girl a bit older than you with a license and let her drive you everywhere, another thing I've done. Its great!
Nice opportunity for ****y/funny comments about her driving...In my opinion, snowboarding is the best idea ive seen. especially if she's a first timer. if she's a first timer this will be magic, you have the opportunity to teach her something, and PLENTY of kino.
Ex: showing her how to strap in, on the ski lift first timers always fall and she will fall on you, tell her to hold onto you for balance ect.
Also she will get excited when she does something right, like going down the hill without falling. Like Amgine said youll get all kinds of sympathy when you fall or hurt yourself. If your good you can show off, if your not then take a lesson together. And if your both good, you will have loads of fun shredding up the slopes! Snowball fights make excellent playful flirty kinds of stuff. The best part is it will create a lasting memory, and when she sees you, she'll get a feeling of excitement, adventure, happiness and fun. Not to mention she'll be thinking of you constantly cause the next day because she will be sore. But that's a good thing because she had so much fun! When she sees her friends, she will gossip and gloat to all her friends about how great it was. Point being you will be on her mind alot thus raising her interest level greatly. Practically failproof.
This can be a costly date though, take her only if she's worth it. But try it, you definately wont regret it
Ex: showing her how to strap in, on the ski lift first timers always fall and she will fall on you, tell her to hold onto you for balance ect.
Also she will get excited when she does something right, like going down the hill without falling. Like Amgine said youll get all kinds of sympathy when you fall or hurt yourself. If your good you can show off, if your not then take a lesson together. And if your both good, you will have loads of fun shredding up the slopes! Snowball fights make excellent playful flirty kinds of stuff. The best part is it will create a lasting memory, and when she sees you, she'll get a feeling of excitement, adventure, happiness and fun. Not to mention she'll be thinking of you constantly cause the next day because she will be sore. But that's a good thing because she had so much fun! When she sees her friends, she will gossip and gloat to all her friends about how great it was. Point being you will be on her mind alot thus raising her interest level greatly. Practically failproof.
This can be a costly date though, take her only if she's worth it. But try it, you definately wont regret it
Ex Girlfriend Prom Situation
Ok so I am taking my ex girlfriend to prom. It has been almsot a year since we went out and she recently started instant messaging me to me a few weeks ago out of the blue. I want to hang out with her a few times before hand so its not akward. I dont know if she just wants to go to prom or is into me again. What are some good idea for things or places to do/ go to and hang out? And how should I act if we see a movie or somethin? Should I jsut act like its a friend or turn on my "game."?
Ok so I am taking my ex girlfriend to prom. It has been almsot a year since we went out and she recently started instant messaging me to me a few weeks ago out of the blue. I want to hang out with her a few times before hand so its not akward. I dont know if she just wants to go to prom or is into me again. What are some good idea for things or places to do/ go to and hang out? And how should I act if we see a movie or somethin? Should I jsut act like its a friend or turn on my "game."?
Mix the date up...don't always do ordinary stuff.
Go swimming (late at night).
Take a nice ride out somewhere (with food and drink).
or you could mix up some of the ordinary stuff:
Movies and Park
etc...The best dates are those that are unplanned.
Go swimming (late at night).
Take a nice ride out somewhere (with food and drink).
or you could mix up some of the ordinary stuff:
Movies and Park
etc...The best dates are those that are unplanned.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I don't agree with your last comment. Spontaneity is great, but having an actual plan can make all the difference. You might just be a last-minute planner (if you pick things in the moment). Brainstorming ahead of time is a major plus imo.DJ4Real said:
Your game should always be "on". However, she is just a friend at the moment (even though she was an ex at one point).Ken88 said:
Get her to qualify herself to you all over again. That will be the most important thing so you can make her interest levels peak.
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I'm surprised you didn't include this. Doesn't matter what time of year it is as long as there is an indoor rink about. Great place to get kino, gets her moving, talk can be minimised if you so wish, plus it's great fun overall. Highly recommended for a first date. 9
i thought of doing that before i read it on this thread.. i as having second thoughts about taking her ice skating but now that just made me sure itl be a good first date.. will see how it goes =D
i thought of doing that before i read it on this thread.. i as having second thoughts about taking her ice skating but now that just made me sure itl be a good first date.. will see how it goes =D
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.