Walden
Master Don Juan
hehe I have a jar on my desk that's slowly filling up with those things.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Great thread. One tip though; I'd drop the "are you single" part and replace it with something else.Originally posted by jwhite17
JJ Cool L said,
Can you tell me what you say when approach all these girls?
I walk around the campus, library, mall, bookstore, etc, but mostly on campus(most chicks!). Then I see a girl that I'm attracted to, ask, "Can I ask you a quick question? She says, "Yea", I then reply with "Are you single?" If she says "yes" then I say "Listen, I got to go, but I would really like to meet you sometime, what's your number" if she says "no" then I say "ok, have a good day" and leave.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Are you shytting me? I know we talked on PM and I believe in your approach, but this seems a bit simple. Can you go through how the conversation went? Did you use the "Are you single?" approach? Did you bother to build any rapport whatsoever??Originally posted by jwhite17
Approach 35 on Jan 16, 2004
I talked to some of my friends(that are girls), and I got bored and gazed over at this brown/black hair exotic looking beauty. At the time I was sitting down in the Food Court, and I told them I'm going to leave and go approach her. She looked up something on the computer and then I just walked up to her. No fear. No emotion. Desireless, sums up how I came across. She seemed a bit taken by my forwardness, but I still left with the number.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
The difference is that Fingz demonstrated value before he gave her that note. He was confident, funny, etc so the note packed more of a punch. You are doing great on these cold approaches but I sense you are not showing enough value (other than having a large set of balls)Originally posted by jwhite17
I was studying for my Accounting and Math Final(don't worry, I'm getting straight A's!) when I saw a blonde HB8 studying with her friend a couple of tables away. I glanced over at her a couple of times, and I know she caught me looking at her.
That didn't faze me because I was going to approach her. I couldn't go up to her and start talking like that because other people where studying for their finals, and I respect these strangers. I was thinking of a way to approach
her while her friend was sitting their, then it HIT me!
I remembered reading something on sosuave, a Mr. Fingers post, Shattering the Limits, and he said that he wrote a note to Ms. Bonita to go out with him and IT WAS SUCCESSFUL! I did a variation of this to my own personal style, I took a piece of paper from my notebook and wrote her a little note telling her
that "I would like to go out with you for some coffee" and if a "yes" send a response to [email protected] and if a "no" don't waste my time and play games with me. Well, turns out she didn't email me. Oh well! At least I tried.
That 's what i've experienced also.The ones i've asked have told me that usually it's because either A) the guy is also attractive B)they are flattered or in a good mood.Originally posted by jwhite17
Hey jwhite,do you notice that most of the better looking ones are more receptive to your advances? While the ones that are not so hot get all b1tchy ...
YES!!! Isn't it ironic how we come in we pre- conceived notions that the hot chicks get approached all the time and reject guys left and right, but so far, the hot ones have been some of the nicest and most receptive girls I have encountered.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.