Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
Tell her not to wash her clothes or panties. The cops will need it for DNA evidence.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
[CRUSHED.] girl i like got gangraped.
- Thread starter DJ Alejandro
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
DJ Alejandro
Senior Don Juan
maybe its too late. if i were the girl, id already have washed it to eliminate all memories of it. 
i saw her a few hours ago. we passed by each other. i made sure she didnt notice me. she was very down and depressed. i wouldnt recognize her as the same girl i knew then. she's changed.
i saw her a few hours ago. we passed by each other. i made sure she didnt notice me. she was very down and depressed. i wouldnt recognize her as the same girl i knew then. she's changed.
chicksrock
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take the girl with you to a police station
file a report
never ever talk to those guy friends of yours...
provide moral support to girl
file a report
never ever talk to those guy friends of yours...
provide moral support to girl
You're having one-itis. Lets reverse the roles. Let's say that some misfortune befell you and you developed negative personality traits. Maybe you get an accident and become paraplegic, maybe you were raped by homosexuals, whatever. In the aftermath, you become mentally ill. Maybe you become a sex criminal yourself, maybe you tend to wallow in negativity and hostility, maybe you become a murderer, all male pattern psycho-disturbances. What do you think the chick is going to do?
Will she provide you with Moral Support? No. She will walk away because she cannot really emphatise with your pain, and does not know how to deal with your problems. People tend to steer away from damaged goods.
What I'm trying to say is that there's a limit to what you can do for HER, so stop holding a torch for her. If I were you, I would take her aside with a serious look and tell her "I've heard from so-and-so that this happened to you, and I'm concerned. If it's true, you need to do something about it immediately." and pass her the rape hotline. Case closed, end of involvement. It's all up to her now.
Will she provide you with Moral Support? No. She will walk away because she cannot really emphatise with your pain, and does not know how to deal with your problems. People tend to steer away from damaged goods.
What I'm trying to say is that there's a limit to what you can do for HER, so stop holding a torch for her. If I were you, I would take her aside with a serious look and tell her "I've heard from so-and-so that this happened to you, and I'm concerned. If it's true, you need to do something about it immediately." and pass her the rape hotline. Case closed, end of involvement. It's all up to her now.
ShortTimer
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Damn labor unions **** everything up.
Also I'd be careful doing anything on your own. I've done research on rape for various criminal justice classes and have found various studies showing that half or MORE of reported rape cases can be shown to be false. I don't mean the chicks backed down from their statements or there was lack of evidence: I mean the evidence found showed the men to have not done the crime.
Anyone remember the "Tailhook" military scandal? A chick said a bunch of military guys raped her in a hotel and it was all over the news. Later she recanted her story because what really happened is that she WILLINGLY participated in a orgy but didn't want her fiancé to find out.
Rape is an ugly thing for more than just the act itself, rape is ugly because women will use it to cover up bad behavior and put innocent men under the crosshairs of the criminal justice system as well as society at large.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Listen to Sardaukar, he is right.
You are so concerned about the woman, but like I stated earlier, she won't come visit you in prison!
I just do not understand why so many men want to "rescue" woman they barely know. It is the retarded white knight syndrome
And I am disgusted so many of you encouraged him. You need to think with your brain and not react emotionally! After all we are men and supposed to be rational.
Dietzcoi
You are so concerned about the woman, but like I stated earlier, she won't come visit you in prison!
I just do not understand why so many men want to "rescue" woman they barely know. It is the retarded white knight syndrome
And I am disgusted so many of you encouraged him. You need to think with your brain and not react emotionally! After all we are men and supposed to be rational.
Dietzcoi
NobleMuscle
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I heard this man in Philippines got executed for raping his daughter...
Mr.Hash wid da Stash
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Gang rape is pretty nasty stuff. Taken very seriously by the law. Isn't rape in some states of America considered a capital offence?
Here in Australia one gangbang leader in Sydney got 55yrs prison time for gang rape.
Sardaukar makes a very good point though.
Here in Australia one gangbang leader in Sydney got 55yrs prison time for gang rape.
Sardaukar makes a very good point though.
This is what you do...
Call the girl on the phone because it will be hard for her to talk in person. You tell her that someone who was there told you what happened and that you want to testify for her if it goes to court. You also encourage her to press charges because if she doesn't they will do this to someone else. Tell her that there's nothing she can do to change what they did to her, but that she does have the power to make sure they don't do it to anyone else. That gives her a sense of control and power, and believe me...she needs that right now.
Do NOT hit on her or try to date her...at least not for quite some time. She's going to feel dirty and since she was a virgin, her only knowledge of sex is something very ugly. If you ever date this girl, it won't be for a very long time, and if you genuinely like her, then start off as a friend by offering to testify on her behalf. The only way into a relationship with her will be through friendship first and the development of trust...because of what has happened to her.
You don't have to already be friends to make this call. You have been told information about what happened to her from someone who was there...you are a potential witness.
Call the girl on the phone because it will be hard for her to talk in person. You tell her that someone who was there told you what happened and that you want to testify for her if it goes to court. You also encourage her to press charges because if she doesn't they will do this to someone else. Tell her that there's nothing she can do to change what they did to her, but that she does have the power to make sure they don't do it to anyone else. That gives her a sense of control and power, and believe me...she needs that right now.
Do NOT hit on her or try to date her...at least not for quite some time. She's going to feel dirty and since she was a virgin, her only knowledge of sex is something very ugly. If you ever date this girl, it won't be for a very long time, and if you genuinely like her, then start off as a friend by offering to testify on her behalf. The only way into a relationship with her will be through friendship first and the development of trust...because of what has happened to her.
You don't have to already be friends to make this call. You have been told information about what happened to her from someone who was there...you are a potential witness.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Walden
Master Don Juan
F***.
She's in my prayers.
She's in my prayers.
tiburon
Banned
Sorry if i sound like an ass
DUDE thsi is how that works for me....IF SHE DOENST GO TO THE COPS >>>>>SHE WANTED TO GET FVCKED>>>>
SORRY BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE IT ....even if it is not the case ..actions speak always louder than words and tears.
I DONT TRUST ANY WOMAN! and dont also go outhere believing she was a virgin.
DUDE thsi is how that works for me....IF SHE DOENST GO TO THE COPS >>>>>SHE WANTED TO GET FVCKED>>>>
SORRY BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE IT ....even if it is not the case ..actions speak always louder than words and tears.
I DONT TRUST ANY WOMAN! and dont also go outhere believing she was a virgin.
Re: Sorry if i sound like an ass
Just because you're bitter because you haven't had much luck with women doesn't excuse such a piss poor attitude as what you are exhibiting. They drugged her and gang raped her. NO ONE wants that to happen to them. This happens to young guys too...when a pretty boy gets thrown in prison with hardened lifers. If he tells, he'll likely get killed or have to spend his entire sentence in solitary for his own protection. Fear of retaliation and shame is what prevents rape victims, male and female from going to the authorities. If you are too ignorant to see why someone would be afraid to report such a crime, you're beyond help.
What an idiot.
Just because you're bitter because you haven't had much luck with women doesn't excuse such a piss poor attitude as what you are exhibiting. They drugged her and gang raped her. NO ONE wants that to happen to them. This happens to young guys too...when a pretty boy gets thrown in prison with hardened lifers. If he tells, he'll likely get killed or have to spend his entire sentence in solitary for his own protection. Fear of retaliation and shame is what prevents rape victims, male and female from going to the authorities. If you are too ignorant to see why someone would be afraid to report such a crime, you're beyond help.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
1) Tiburon, I like your sig.
2) NOT
3) Crazykid, you're Chinese?
2) NOT
3) Crazykid, you're Chinese?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
What dude seems to have going on here is Bush syndrome: acting on second-hand evidence. You going to this girl with your sympathies, or going to the cops with this story, is tantmount to the good ol' Bush admin going to Iraq on the "story" that they had WMDs...look how that turned out.
Keep your nose out of it. You're not going to be the hero by approaching her or the police. What you're going to do is make your life way more complicated than it should be. And, by the DJ manifesto, you're going to be the total AFC friend material by doing anything like this.
And one more thing. I once dated a girl who's first sexual encounter was a rape: the girl went to a private school and the deans son raped her. It permanently scars their personality and their attitude towards sex. Being her boyfriend is something that will never happen to you for a decade probably.
If this is true, my sympathies go out to this girl. However, if it isn't, it would be fitting for the perpetuator of this rumor to contract herpes or something sexually embarrassing.
Keep your nose out of it. You're not going to be the hero by approaching her or the police. What you're going to do is make your life way more complicated than it should be. And, by the DJ manifesto, you're going to be the total AFC friend material by doing anything like this.
And one more thing. I once dated a girl who's first sexual encounter was a rape: the girl went to a private school and the deans son raped her. It permanently scars their personality and their attitude towards sex. Being her boyfriend is something that will never happen to you for a decade probably.
If this is true, my sympathies go out to this girl. However, if it isn't, it would be fitting for the perpetuator of this rumor to contract herpes or something sexually embarrassing.
Nope, Italian. Someone PM'ed me calling me a "virgin Chinese Communist" so I decided the best way to make sure that little accident doesn't happen again is to speak the truth, unlike some of this site. (No, not pointed at you)
tiburon
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lols inmature kid ....
"What an idiot.
Just because you're bitter because you haven't had much luck with women doesn't excuse such a piss poor attitude as what you are exhibiting. They drugged her and gang raped her. NO ONE wants that to happen to them. This happens to young guys too...when a pretty boy gets thrown in prison with hardened lifers. If he tells, he'll likely get killed or have to spend his entire sentence in solitary for his own protection. Fear of retaliation and shame is what prevents rape victims, male and female from going to the authorities. If you are too ignorant to see why someone would be afraid to report such a crime, you're beyond help."
loook kid she aint on prison and if she respects herself she would do it no matter what......otherwise its her words against them and that will ruin her life anyways..
LOL you ll be the guy your girl says a guy raped her when she just had the best sex in her life just because you are so naive....
WAKE UP AFC!
"What an idiot.
Just because you're bitter because you haven't had much luck with women doesn't excuse such a piss poor attitude as what you are exhibiting. They drugged her and gang raped her. NO ONE wants that to happen to them. This happens to young guys too...when a pretty boy gets thrown in prison with hardened lifers. If he tells, he'll likely get killed or have to spend his entire sentence in solitary for his own protection. Fear of retaliation and shame is what prevents rape victims, male and female from going to the authorities. If you are too ignorant to see why someone would be afraid to report such a crime, you're beyond help."
loook kid she aint on prison and if she respects herself she would do it no matter what......otherwise its her words against them and that will ruin her life anyways..
LOL you ll be the guy your girl says a guy raped her when she just had the best sex in her life just because you are so naive....
WAKE UP AFC!
Man, if i could to blow money away on a ticket to Phils, i'd fly down there just to b1tchslap some sense into you! What the hell is wrong with you man? You say you like this girl. She just had the most traumatizing experience of her life. And instead of being that one person she can talk to, you're sitting here and discussing it online. What the hell is wrong with you? You walked by her and made sure she didn't recognize you? Just when she needs someone the most? And then you sit here and say how it may be too late now, and yet still you hesitate and wait? What the hell is wrong with you? And you're friends with these guys? You know they've done this to other girls, so this has happened before and you let them get away with it. But now they've done it to a girl you care about. That's karma - you deserved it! Had you acted before, this wouldn't have happened to her. Yes, it IS your fault man because you were a damn pvssy to act then and you're still a damn pvssy to act now! I'm sorry to go down so hard on you man... no wait, i'm not sorry. You deserve it! What the hell is wrong with you? Get off your ass *** RIGHT NOW ***, do whatever you can to help the girl, do whatever you can to punish the guys. NOW!
Re: lols inmature kid ....
Yes, there are some women who make false claims about being raped. I am well aware of that as are most people. I am also well aware of the fact that it is EXTREMELY RARE for ANY female to go to a party and have voluntary sex with virtually every male at the party..EXPECIALLY if she is a virgin. So, if a male friend who was present at the party said that a girl was gang raped there, I'm going to believe him. You're probably the same kind of fool who thinks that men can't be physically abused by women, too.
*shakes head*
Don't call me "kid"...I'm 38 years old. Also, no, I won't be the "guy whose girl says a guy raped her"...I am a woman who has been raped by my ex-husband. I am also a long time member of this forum and one of the few women here whose advice the old time DJs on this actually respect. Personally, I don't think the guy should even try to have any kind or romantic relationship with this girl because it's going to be a LONG time before she's going to be healthy enough for anything like that.
Yes, there are some women who make false claims about being raped. I am well aware of that as are most people. I am also well aware of the fact that it is EXTREMELY RARE for ANY female to go to a party and have voluntary sex with virtually every male at the party..EXPECIALLY if she is a virgin. So, if a male friend who was present at the party said that a girl was gang raped there, I'm going to believe him. You're probably the same kind of fool who thinks that men can't be physically abused by women, too.
*shakes head*
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.