"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Crossing the line of law

Solarium

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What are your thoughts on dating minors? I know every state has different laws, but do you think it's worth it to risk yourself jailtime to date a girl who's almost 18?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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bigjohnson

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Legal and right are different.

I refuse to do anything illegal in such cases, and I also refuse to date anyone really young and living at home. Actually now that I think about it I've not dated a girl who was currently living with her parents since it was the 1980's. The potential for unwanted complications seems too high.
 

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"Almost 18" is almost 2 years passed the legal age here in MA, but in other places you'll be considered a child rapist.

Yet another nonsensical part of society.

Take her to MA and fvck her.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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bukowski_merit

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not only do i consider it wrong

but, if you started a rel with this girl and fell for her - you'd have to go through HELL trying to keep and keep up with this girl as the girl matured in the 17-22 age range... there's so many phases you'll get hit with during that...

not worth it in the little way...

most 17 yo's are far from virgins too... so it's not like the sex will be any better than if you went with a 25 year old... in fact - smart money is on it being better with than older woman...
 

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bukowski_merit said:
..... - smart money is on it being better with than older woman...
Bzzzzzt. Wrong. In my experience this is just not true unless the guy is inexperienced and needs some Mrs. Robinson style help.
 

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bigjohnson said:
Bzzzzzt. Wrong. In my experience this is just not true unless the guy is inexperienced and needs some Mrs. Robinson style help.
nonsense... and i'm not talking about old like that... i'm talking - older than her teens...

most girls i mess with are in the 22-28 range... and i can tell you they are much more in touch with their abilities in bed (such as their ability to have an orgasm). if you sit down and talk to them about sex... many will say "i started having sex when i was around [somewhere in the 13-16 range]." and if you probe further most of them will tell you something like "i didn't really learn how to really enjoy myself and gain pleasure from sex until i was [somewhere in the 21-25 range]."

i get off on another womans pleasure... the last thing i wanna do is stick my d!ck in some immature girl who's going to "act out" how she thinks sex should be...
 

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bukowski_merit said:
i get off on another womans pleasure...
So you're a lesbian?


bukowski_merit said:
.... some immature girl who's going to "act out" how she thinks ....
The reason 18 yo girls have trouble enjoying it is that they are with 18 yo boys, it has nothing to do with them. If they just do as I ask they will have a great time.
 

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bigjohnson said:
So you're a lesbian?
Yes i'm a motha****in lesbian!


bigjohnson said:
The reason 18 yo girls have trouble enjoying it is that they are with 18 yo boys, it has nothing to do with them. If they just do as I ask they will have a great time.
I think most 18yo woman date and **** much older men... I still don't want to tell a girl what to do to get off and enjoy herself... she needs to know that going into it... i have a dominant sexual personality, but that doesn't mean i want to be a teacher...

this guy is also talking about relationships... not sex... and a (possibly illegal) 17 year old, not an 18 year old.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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