"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Covid and girl issues

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So there is a girl who i used to work with but because of pandemic i lost that job. Recenty i added her on facebook and started casual conversation. Because of the pandemic everything is closed is it good idea to ask her out just to walk? Or should i wait untill lockdown is going to be finished? Any tips how should i talk to her to not get pushed into friendzone?
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hello
So there is a girl who i used to work with but because of pandemic i lost that job. Recenty i added her on facebook and started casual conversation. Because of the pandemic everything is closed is it good idea to ask her out just to walk? Or should i wait untill lockdown is going to be finished? Any tips how should i talk to her to not get pushed into friendzone?
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Yes, ask her out and find out if she's for real or if she just wants to waste your time by chatting online.
 
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Hello
So there is a girl who i used to work with but because of pandemic i lost that job. Recenty i added her on facebook and started casual conversation. Because of the pandemic everything is closed is it good idea to ask her out just to walk? Or should i wait untill lockdown is going to be finished? Any tips how should i talk to her to not get pushed into friendzone?
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Old school MM ftw.

Any times you question should you or shouldn't you, you always should. - your friend, Mystery.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Im smashing. Covid won't keep me down. No pun intended.

Let's be honest- its a virus. Are you going to be the first person in history to dodge a virus? Most people have probably had it and didn't know it.

Those who stop living their lives due to fear are already dead.

Smash these chicks.
 

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I agree with you Glassguy but all of pubs, restaurants are closed. And i have not asked any girl to go with me just for a walk in years :D
 

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I agree with you Glassguy but all of pubs, restaurants are closed. And i have not asked any girl to go with me just for a walk in years :D
Ask her out for a walk is excellent advice.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Im smashing. Covid won't keep me down. No pun intended.

Let's be honest- its a virus. Are you going to be the first person in history to dodge a virus? Most people have probably had it and didn't know it.

Those who stop living their lives due to fear are already dead.

Smash these chicks.
Agreed. I have a few regulars since pre covid but anybody who is saying they've had no erosion in their funnel or any leakage is talking ****. The amount of skanks attention whoring on a layoff from underwater sock puppetry is at a record high. As in, higher than usual and recognised it during initial lockdowns. The result is comply or bye.

Women must have stupid high interest level or its as good as dead.
 

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Agreed. I have a few regulars since pre covid but anybody who is saying they've had no erosion in their funnel or any leakage is talking ****. The amount of skanks attention whoring on a layoff from underwater sock puppetry is at a record high. As in, higher than usual and recognised it during initial lockdowns. The result is comply or bye.

Women must have stupid high interest level or its as good as dead.
Agreed. I went from a 6 month relationship to single, now have 2 steady plates and a drinks date with a new prospect this evening. Picking her up at her house and the intent is to grab a couple drinks and smash.

The ONLY women that I have heard say they were afraid to go out due to covid were low interest. Women want the D from men they have high interest/attraction for and they arent going to stop themselves from getting it.

Keep in mind that I live in the midwest where we only wear a mask when required and we arent scared of shyte.

As to the point- The woman who uses the covid excuse (and that is all it is) should be dead to the man she says it to. Move on. That same woman is smashing someone, just not you.
 

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Agreed. I went from a 6 month relationship to single, now have 2 steady plates and a drinks date with a new prospect this evening. Picking her up at her house and the intent is to grab a couple drinks and smash.

The ONLY women that I have heard say they were afraid to go out due to covid were low interest. Women want the D from men they have high interest/attraction for and they arent going to stop themselves from getting it.

Keep in mind that I live in the midwest where we only wear a mask when required and we arent scared of shyte.

As to the point- The woman who uses the covid excuse (and that is all it is) should be dead to the man she says it to. Move on. That same woman is smashing someone, just not you.
I swear I was trying to crush every nationality throughout pandemic or not for a lack of effort. I heard Aaron and Elkin reveal a lot of guys being dragged along through covid. Mr. Elkin got dragged along. I think many guys have. Shout out @ the late Doc love and interest level (&&& jargon about psych majors). Interest is key. Compliance is a solid indicator. It could be end of days and mad max outdoors. If high interest, babes are getting naked.

Mid West lad. Should have wheeled Tommy Lauren before she became Karen lulz!
 
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