"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Could I have done anything different/better?

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Hey all,

learning to build my confidence and approach more. I can hold a decent conversation so long as the girl is interesting and offers enough 'hooks' to keep the momentum going.

Anyway, this morning I got off the train and saw this average looking girl just ahead of me. As I came in line with her the conversation went like this

Me: How's it going?
Her: good (she gave me a slight annoyed look)
Me: Big night? (It was about 8 in the morning so thought she might have been getting the train back from a big night out
Her: not really (same look)

After this I just ignored her and walked ahead. She obviously wasn't interested. So, could I have done anything different/better?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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tick37

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=140339

Don't post the same thing twice to get a reply. That's annoying. It's late on a Friday night. You probably won't get too many replies. I've already taken one of my girls home because I wanted to spend some damn time alone. Then I get on here and give you a little help without any appreciation, and you become impatient.
 

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your FR lasted about 2 secs past the opener. then you prematurely ejected yourself because you overanalyzed her body language

don't worry about this one. just keep approaching, keep the momentum going
 

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Sorry tick37, forgot I'd already posted this haha. Just tired, but thanks heaps for your original response. I need to be able to be more 'to the point' like that.
 

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Too many beers, eh?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Nah its actually been a quiet weekend, used to being out on the town haha but mates pulled out of plans so ended up bored as. Shoulda gone out by myself and checked out a few bars.
 
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