"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Conversion from first meet to the call

Amazing

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Numbers don't mean much, but at the same time if you had a decent time and the girl seems cool about giving you the number, you'd think she will respond to your call.

Don't know about you guys but just getting annoyed with leaving voicemails and actually bringing something to the table (like great parties) and these chicks not replying. I have a couple who are very easy to deal with, always reply, etc.. but the others.. I have dropped hundreds of women in my life after calling once/twice and not getting a response.. I wonder if I should have stuck with it more, or did something differently.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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numbers game, if your really tired of that $hit, send a text maybe. Seems like fewer people are checking voicemail to me, everyone sees a text though.
 

I'm in the Mood

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Amazing said:
I have dropped hundreds of women in my life after calling once/twice and not getting a response..
1-2 calls? Dude, you're giving up too easily!

Next time tell em to quit playing hard to get. You can call once a week and leave a message, and repeat until the girl calls you back, without turning her off. You can probably call em every 3-5 days, sometimes leaving messages and sometimes not.

I would have to say that one surefire way to getting a girl to call you back is to leave an INTERESTING message.
Not like the same old "Hey, just wondering how you are doing. Give me a call back when you get the chance!" bullshyt, because girls get that ALL the time, and truthfully it is very lame. You can be more creative than that, just break your habit of leaving a "scripted message" and think of a way to hook her into wanting to call you back.

Hey, girls like persistent guys, which means you actually have to go out of your way just a LITTLE bit and chase her up, but once she gets into the habit of calling you back and sees the great man that she's been missing out on, you will not have to worry about chasing her.

You first have to get your power, by hooking a girl, then you can reel her in and keep that power.

Pushiness doesn't work though, as in being too concerned with the outcome of your interactions with women. Be indifferent to the outcome to avoid being pushy, because, if you like a girl, but are confident that if she doesn't have time to spend with you, you can find another girl, your attraction towards her will motivate you, and your confidence will keep you in control of yourself.

So be persistent, without being pushy!
 
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