"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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compare yours to REAL problems.

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Like civil war, being in prison, starving, disease, busted up in a car wreck, being on the run, having a gang after you, etc. Your silly little "can't get any" problem is a joke. Get over yourself, why don't you?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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While I agree you should always Thank God and feel Blessed for what you have, telling yourself "hey, it could be worse" will not take care of the problems you do have

if you have a problem getting women, you can't say "well some people in the world are starving, at least i have food"

that's not going to solve the actual problem you have of getting women

if you have a problem in life, it has to be taken care of, no matter how big or small it is in comparison to other people's problems
 

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why Don't you get off this forum if all your gonna do is complain

the people that think not getting laid is the worst thing in the world aren't gonna be helped by anything
 

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cablecow15 said:
why Don't you get off this forum if all your gonna do is complain

the people that think not getting laid is the worst thing in the world aren't gonna be helped by anything

Do yourself a favor, and look up the first 4 or 5 threads he created. He's just a troll, and he's one of the weaker ones.

Don't argue with him, just ignore.
 

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don't said:
Like civil war, being in prison, starving, disease, busted up in a car wreck, being on the run, having a gang after you, etc. Your silly little "can't get any" problem is a joke. Get over yourself, why don't you?
Some men on here aren't all that experienced in getting a date. Others are puzzled by the emotional / neurotic / feminist nonsense that women say and do. Nothing wrong with men sorting out ideas and using each other as a sounding board.

Some men on here are really hurting from being emotionally / psychologically / financially abused by women. Nothing wrong with seeking help from other men who've been through it.

Better to prescribe medicine to combat the symptoms, and take a chance of being wrong or overprotective, than to wait until after the autopsy and be 100% certain of what was killing the man's body and soul.

Society is messed up, so the individuals who make up society are messed up. As an individual, I can't fix all of society by myself. But I can help fellow men fix themselves one by one. In doing so, I fix myself.

I think it's negative reinforcement -- in other words, a mind fvck -- for you to assert that men must act like the dysfunctional Marlboro Man male role model, especially when feminists already criticize that as being as unreal as the Stepford Wives female role model.

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I am not her man. She can't stand the thought of me touching her. She's dripping with other men's semen. She is ashamed to be seen with me. She never misses an opportunity to disrespect me. Everything I do is wrong. I am the problem. She got what she wanted from me. She says "I hate you so much I could kill you." Going away forever will make her happy again. So I'm leaving her to her pumped-and-dumped lifestyle and leaving her bastard child fatherless. I'd be better off with no woman at all than wasting another second thinking about her. I learned from my mistakes and the next relationship will be done with planning for my happiness.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is so stupid. Psychological distress is as real of a problem as physical distress.
But, since you kept it physical:
- so what if you lost your job? You could do worse, like having cancer.
- so what if a loved one was raped? She could have been killed.
- so what if your much beloved wife cheated you with all your friends, had a baby with one of them and you raised it like it was yours? You could have been maimed by a speeding truck.

Jeez, do you see how stupid this can get by following your line of thought?
It says a lot about your intellect. But don't worry, you could have been clinically retarded not just have a low iq.

To summarise for the slower ones: not getting girls, which causes depression, bad concentration, saps you of energy,etc., IS A REAL PROBLEM.
 

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don't makes a good point (finally).

Also note that the hardships we endure strengthen us and give us character, then women come out of the woodwork. It also allows us to have empathy for those who aren't as fortunate. There is a fine line being living high on the hog and low on the sidewalk.
 

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A problem means a lot to the sufferer.

Even if it is petty, this means one cannot feel aggrieved? :down:
 

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bigneil said:
don't makes a good point (finally).

Also note that the hardships we endure strengthen us and give us character, then women come out of the woodwork. It also allows us to have empathy for those who aren't as fortunate. There is a fine line being living high on the hog and low on the sidewalk.
Ok, but modern society says to suck up problems and ditch those who have hard lives. :woo:

I would say also that life circumstances are not equal, and never can be. People, sometimes due to hard work or even good fortune, are born into, receive or acquire favourable positions. Somebody born into a rich family in Beverly Hills has more opportunities than an orphan child in Africa.
 

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MisterD said:
While I agree you should always Thank God and feel Blessed for what you have, telling yourself "hey, it could be worse" will not take care of the problems you do have

if you have a problem getting women, you can't say "well some people in the world are starving, at least i have food"

that's not going to solve the actual problem you have of getting women

if you have a problem in life, it has to be taken care of, no matter how big or small it is in comparison to other people's problems
This.

I think moaning about unfairness is infantile, and frankly a mental illness.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I once read a very interesting graphic novel called 'Persepolis'. It's about a woman who grew up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution. She went through that, the Iran-Iraq War, and the imprisonment and murder of several members of her family. When she got older she studied in Europe, and after finding out her boyfriend was cheating on her she broke down and lived on the street before returning to Iran.

As she says 'I suffered a revolution and a war, but it was a banal love story that almost did me in".

You should always be grateful for what you have. But it isn't enough to keep you from missing what you don't - especially if that something is not material (such as a bigger house or car) but intangible (love, purpose in your life).
 
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