You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Sosuave is one of the vestiges of the "old internet", a place where people can express their opinions freely and anonymously. Governments, media and big tech are actively trying to suppress these vestiges, as they have no control over them. They are going to simultaneously label you a pathetic loser and a dangerous radical for daring to question the mainstream narrative. I burst out laughing at the end of the video when the fat chick says that she feels "empathy" for men who take the red pill and go in a "dangerous direction". I guess we should all take the "safe" route and become supplicating husbands to fat feminist cows like herself.Now that this entire idea of "Red-Pill" has gone mainstream, I do imagine SoSuave won't be around by the end of this decade.
Damn bro. It hurts reading your comment. Stay strong. And I'm sorry to hear this.If I could go back in time now and you offer 30 grand. OR you gave me two bits of red pill advice.
1. The power of walking Walk Away
2. how much women crave non sexual attention.
I would take the advice, everytime. its saved my mental health, my life, and getting my daughter back.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
So much to discuss here, and unfortunately, not all that is presented is wrong. A lot of manosphere communities can turn very toxic, we see it even here in SS. However, they are definitely pushing a story agenda, which is red-pill is misogyny and extremists. They are associating a political view on red-pill. And while there is a lot of men that do that, that is certainly not the case for a few of us here. In fact, I get really turned off when some members here start spreading political agendas which include covid-19 and its "vaccine".
You will find some level of toxicity anywhere on the Internet. I mean, you could go to a forum dedicated to baking and still find toxic people there. I find that the level of toxicity on SS is actually quite low considering the subject matter. With the exception of occasional trolls, most posters here are civil and well-behaved.So much to discuss here, and unfortunately, not all that is presented is wrong. A lot of manosphere communities can turn very toxic, we see it even here in SS.
This was years ago, I split up from the family, I sat every night trying to put the family back together- 2 kids involved (problem solving mind) whilst she sat their lapping up the attention. I thought i was being an adult, I sent her flowers in the end and instead of appreciating them,she manipulated the situation, to get more attention from orbiters/females by putting a status on social media "flowers from a secret admirer" and she ignored me.Damn bro. It hurts reading your comment. Stay strong. And I'm sorry to hear this.
This was posted in October 2017. Let's assume it aired in Fall 2017. Roosh and Heartiste have disappeared since then.Now that this entire idea of "Red-Pill" has gone mainstream, I do imagine SoSuave won't be around by the end of this decade.
This is a great synopsis of SoSuave.Sosuave is one of the vestiges of the "old internet", a place where people can express their opinions freely and anonymously. Governments, media and big tech are actively trying to suppress these vestiges, as they have no control over them. They are going to simultaneously label you a pathetic loser and a dangerous radical for daring to question the mainstream narrative. I burst out laughing at the end of the video when the fat chick says that she feels "empathy" for men who take the red pill and go in a "dangerous direction". I guess we should all take the "safe" route and become supplicating husbands to fat feminist cows like herself.
PUA has been mainstream for a long while now, it's just currently better known as "Red Pill". SoSuave somehow has managed to survive while most other seduction sites have fallen by the wayside. Maybe because there is such a wide range of discussion here, it isn't just about dating or getting laid.Now that this entire idea of "Red-Pill" has gone mainstream, I do imagine SoSuave won't be around by the end of this decade.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ElaborateIf I could go back in time now and you offer 30 grand. OR you gave me two bits of red pill advice.
1. The power of walking Walk Away
2. how much women crave non sexual attention.
I would take the advice, everytime. its saved my mental health, my life, and getting my daughter back.
How soThis was years ago, I split up from the family, I sat every night trying to put the family back together- 2 kids involved (problem solving mind) whilst she sat their lapping up the attention. I thought i was being an adult, I sent her flowers in the end and instead of appreciating them,she manipulated the situation, to get more attention from orbiters/females by putting a status on social media "flowers from a secret admirer" and she ignored me.
I went full on Red Pill Arcade mode after
its explained quite well, / I hit the drink for 4 months, and tried every night to put my family back together, not realising i looked like a low value beg.How so
I take it you separated and now back in the dating sceneits explained quite well, / I hit the drink for 4 months, and tried every night to put my family back together, not realising i looked like a low value beg.
a guy told me to walk away, and my pathetic inner whiteknight told him i would never turn my back, on my ex.
god its disgusting looking back,
but her behaviour showed me i needed to take the pill,
You mean sexual attention correctIf I could go back in time now and you offer 30 grand. OR you gave me two bits of red pill advice.
1. The power of walking Walk Away
2. how much women crave non sexual attention.
I would take the advice, everytime. its saved my mental health, my life, and getting my daughter back.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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... tell me about it. Typical shaming bull****. Although I imagine I'd react similarly if my strategies were utterly revealed.
What I love the most about "The red pill" is that after filtering through all the BS, you recognize that most of the advice has nothing to do with women and everything to do with maturing into a better MAN. In whichever manner that means to you.
This concept of the "red pill" can turn a lost cause into a success story in the right hands. I do firmly believe this. But, unfortunately, on the opposite side of the coin, it can produce the most ruthless of incels.
There are many questionable cats on here, but the real ones do stand out. The advice can be cold but necessary and skips through all the "good feelings" BS. To those, I've listened - and trust me, I've learned and improved.
Is swallowing "the pill" Painful? Sure. But life in the realm of petty romance is MUCH more tolerable now.
What's sort of sad is you also come to recognize just how dangerous the mainstream narrative truly is. And just how far people will go to defend it.
what do you mean non sexual attention?If I could go back in time now and you offer 30 grand. OR you gave me two bits of red pill advice.
1. The power of walking Walk Away
2. how much women crave non sexual attention.
I would take the advice, everytime. its saved my mental health, my life, and getting my daughter back.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.