"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Choose the Right Victim
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Two points now occur:
-Much of the in-fighting here arises as result the differing considerations required of casual hook-ups and LTRs.
-Neil is talking about LTRs, LTRs being something that some men completely dismiss because, (a) they've been burned and are still butthurt, viewing all women as the evil storybook villain and, (b), they haven't actually thought (much) about what they would want from a woman in the long term, outside the archetypal fairytale princess who doesn't fcking exist anyway; therefore wouldn't be able to identify a good woman if one walked up to them, got down on her knee and put their junk straight in her mouth.
Lets see if you're still saying this in 5 years. I doubt it.
You seem too desperate to me. I can't picture you keeping the upper hand in your relationship for more than a short period of time.
The Art of Seduction doesn't say anything about keeping people long-term. In fact, it talks about how easily the seduction can fall apart.
What a ridiculous, loser attitude. Wait, you're the one who never made it to one year in any relationship, right? I've known this girl 14 months and last night she said she loved me way back when we first met. I'm doing something right.
So now if SS members get the hottest girl they ever saw for a long term relationship (> 3 months, not 60 months, this isn't your Hyundai lease), they have to stay together longer than the average US marriage for it to count? This is a common disinformation tactic: demand impossible standards. Go back to advising men on how to get phone numbers.
It's already been the greatest romantic experience of my life, no thanks to the whiners who have insisted I must be paying for it, that strippers will never love you, and that something bad will happen if you date girls 25 years younger who are in their prime.
Wait, you never read Art of Seduction by Robert Greene? Chapter 1 is called "Choose the right victim". How am I the victim? The victim of lots of sex for months with a girl I love? Talk about hater.
Then again, she is a master seducer too, so I am a victim of her seduction per Robert Greene. We both seduced each other perfectly, hence we are madly in love. I asked last night "Do you like me more now than our love at first sight moment?" and she said "I like you WAY more now". Later she said "You give me space".
She has initiated texts 11 times in the past 2 weeks, including 5 straight days, while I have initiated 0. Tell me what is wrong again?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Okay, but Robert Greene is an idiot.
I'd like to see someone quote themselves being right about something before it happened. Advice has been doom and gloom. Dump her. She's a ho. She's crazy. You must be paying. Meanwhile it's been the best romance of my life.
And wait, she's a ho because she's a stripper? She started talking about a commitment. Readers know I would never bring up such a topic. Note that I met her before she became a stripper, so this whole "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" nonsense doesn't apply. I met her when she was a 20 year old waitress. You think it's easier to get a 35 year old (you hope) non-stripper to be faithful??
This is what members can look forward to when they finally get the girl they always wanted: denial, dismissal and doomsayers.
I still hope these guys find their dream girl someday. I've laid the blueprint here, pardon the pun.
"Mistake! You should always let women do 70% to 80% of the pursuing. Now as you chase more, she will start to chase less." - Coach Corey Wayne
I had the "best romance of my life" for almost 3 years. Guess what. Still single! You're not some magical prince that she'll never abandon. Hope you're mentally prepared for when that happens. I wasn't.
LOL
That's a good thing. You should celebrate. That's longer than any of my relationships (2.5 years was my record). You are saying that because it didn't last forever you failed? I've found that each relationship I have becomes more meaningful because I don't repeat past mistakes. Members can't believe it, but I'm simply at the master level with this girl. She would be the first to tell you that.
The best you can be is her best option. Don't rely on her being faithful, or "good" if you aren't her best option. By definition of better, she will leave you for someone better if that person is available to her. She describes me as irreplaceable, and one in a million. And she should. I'm in the 99 percentile of income, height, IQ and penis size. And I love her the most. Describe a better man than me.
Oh and get this: on our last date when she confessed her love more than ever, she paid for everything. I told her she had to prove herself and the people who say it's all about money. She took great pride in paying.
Having a girl lie and say she loves you is still not a bad thing if backed up with sex.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.