Choose the Right Victim

[AlphaNate]

INB4 neil kills his g/f

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

I've said for a long while that this site could do with separate sub-forums for casual relationships/hooking up vs. LTRs; the nuances, indications and implications are vastly different in certain respects. By example, the type of girl you hook up with on the first night you meet in a club might be very different to the type of woman you might identify as a potential gf

Two points now occur:

-Much of the in-fighting here arises as result the differing considerations required of casual hook-ups and LTRs.

-Neil is talking about LTRs, LTRs being something that some men completely dismiss because, (a) they've been burned and are still butthurt, viewing all women as the evil storybook villain and, (b), they haven't actually thought (much) about what they would want from a woman in the long term, outside the archetypal fairytale princess who doesn't fcking exist anyway; therefore wouldn't be able to identify a good woman if one walked up to them, got down on her knee and put their junk straight in her mouth.

 

[Urbanyst]

Absolutely. Whether a casual relationship or committed relationship, seduction is about forming and maintaining relationships with women you want to have sex with.

Last night my girlfriend (on the 5 month anniversary of the first time we had sex) told me she has always loved me, that she fell in love the first time we made love, that I am her ideal type so much it kills her to think about how weak she has become toward me, and she said she never loved any man in her life as much as me. I chose the right victim.

Lets see if you're still saying this in 5 years. I doubt it.

You seem too desperate to me. I can't picture you keeping the upper hand in your relationship for more than a short period of time.

The Art of Seduction doesn't say anything about keeping people long-term. In fact, it talks about how easily the seduction can fall apart.

 

[bigneil]

Lets see if you're still saying this in 5 years. I doubt it.

What a ridiculous, loser attitude. Wait, you're the one who never made it to one year in any relationship, right? I've known this girl 14 months and last night she said she loved me way back when we first met. I'm doing something right.

So now if SS members get the hottest girl they ever saw for a long term relationship (> 3 months, not 60 months, this isn't your Hyundai lease), they have to stay together longer than the average US marriage for it to count? This is a common disinformation tactic: demand impossible standards. Go back to advising men on how to get phone numbers.

It's already been the greatest romantic experience of my life, no thanks to the whiners who have insisted I must be paying for it, that strippers will never love you, and that something bad will happen if you date girls 25 years younger who are in their prime.

 

[bigneil]

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance. source: http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

Is she the victim, or are you?

From what you've said, seems like the latter.

Wait, you never read Art of Seduction by Robert Greene? Chapter 1 is called "Choose the right victim". How am I the victim? The victim of lots of sex for months with a girl I love? Talk about hater.

Then again, she is a master seducer too, so I am a victim of her seduction per Robert Greene. We both seduced each other perfectly, hence we are madly in love. I asked last night "Do you like me more now than our love at first sight moment?" and she said "I like you WAY more now". Later she said "You give me space".

She has initiated texts 11 times in the past 2 weeks, including 5 straight days, while I have initiated 0. Tell me what is wrong again?

 

[AlphaNate]

Wait, you never read Art of Seduction by Robert Greene? Chapter 1 is called "Choose the right victim". How am I the victim? The victim of lots of sex for months with a girl I love? Talk about hater.

Then again, she is a master seducer too, so I am a victim of her seduction per Robert Greene.

Okay, but Robert Greene is an idiot.

 

[bigneil]

There you have it. Having unlimited sex with your favorite girl for 5+ months is bizarre and crazy, and the author of the most important book on seduction is "an idiot".

I'd like to see someone quote themselves being right about something before it happened. Advice has been doom and gloom. Dump her. She's a ho. She's crazy. You must be paying. Meanwhile it's been the best romance of my life.

And wait, she's a ho because she's a stripper? She started talking about a commitment. Readers know I would never bring up such a topic. Note that I met her before she became a stripper, so this whole "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" nonsense doesn't apply. I met her when she was a 20 year old waitress. You think it's easier to get a 35 year old (you hope) non-stripper to be faithful??

This is what members can look forward to when they finally get the girl they always wanted: denial, dismissal and doomsayers.

I still hope these guys find their dream girl someday. I've laid the blueprint here, pardon the pun.

 

[bigneil]

Don't see any shame with "initiating". It's what men do. You're scared to send her a fvcking message for Christ sakes.

"Mistake! You should always let women do 70% to 80% of the pursuing. Now as you chase more, she will start to chase less." - Coach Corey Wayne

 

[AlphaNate]

Having unlimited sex with your favorite girl for 5+ months is bizarre and crazy

I had the "best romance of my life" for almost 3 years. Guess what. Still single! You're not some magical prince that she'll never abandon. Hope you're mentally prepared for when that happens. I wasn't.

the most important book on seduction

LOL

 

[bigneil]

I had the "best romance of my life" for almost 3 years.

That's a good thing. You should celebrate. That's longer than any of my relationships (2.5 years was my record). You are saying that because it didn't last forever you failed? I've found that each relationship I have becomes more meaningful because I don't repeat past mistakes. Members can't believe it, but I'm simply at the master level with this girl. She would be the first to tell you that.

The best you can be is her best option. Don't rely on her being faithful, or "good" if you aren't her best option. By definition of better, she will leave you for someone better if that person is available to her. She describes me as irreplaceable, and one in a million. And she should. I'm in the 99 percentile of income, height, IQ and penis size. And I love her the most. Describe a better man than me.

Oh and get this: on our last date when she confessed her love more than ever, she paid for everything. I told her she had to prove herself and the people who say it's all about money. She took great pride in paying.

Having a girl lie and say she loves you is still not a bad thing if backed up with sex.

 

[AlphaNate]

No, I lost myself during that relationship. That's on me.