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Online dating is a sh!tshow. The women are sh!t, the men are sh!t, everyone involved are sh!t. Looking at the insanity from a neutral perspective really emphasizes just how absurd it has become, for both genders. Everyone is a loser.
It wasnt as bad ten to 15 or so years ago, even 5 years ago. Problem now everyone has a smartphone which makes it so much easier for a guy to sign up or a woman signing up just for validation.

I di notice the quality of women have gone way down hill on old. I don't mean just looks but more baggage and all. 10 years ago the quality of women was much much better and less effort was needed to get a reply or dates. Little effort needed.

I think a lot of decent people have been scared off old. From what women tell me around here they get bombed with guys all age ranges and creeps too and seems to have got worse.

Quality even over the last 2 years way down but you still have the same ton of guys and more competing. Like around here it's like 10 guys to 1 on old from what the women tell me about the bombardment of messages they get.
 

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You dont have a chance to charm a lady online beyond your photos. You have to be chadlite for OLD to have a fighting chance to work without pullin teeth.
TBH, when I was on OLD a year or so ago, it's a mix of timing and photos. Different photos work with different ladies. I found the action shots were the best. I used a mountain climbing one, a MMA one, a axe throwing one, a skydiving one and me decked to the nine's at a formal event. Anyone can do it... I'm the s hit, but nothing special. You can do it too. Even @biggoal can.. If he actually listened to us.
 

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TBH, when I was on OLD a year or so ago, it's a mix of timing and photos. Different photos work with different ladies. I found the action shots were the best. I used a mountain climbing one, a MMA one, a axe throwing one, a skydiving one and me decked to the nine's at a formal event. Anyone can do it... I'm the s hit, but nothing special. You can do it too. Even @biggoal can.. If he actually listened to us.
That's interesting. Unfortunately I have too many financial problems to afford the luxury of time, let alone money, to even consider any of the activities you mentioned and making photo shoots. Sounds like the stuff for middle/upper class white people. In a sense you are already subcommunicating you are wealthy and brave and I guess a fit and all together white man or something like that. Yeah, I can see women gravitating towards a profile because you are hitting their attraction triggers by playing up LMS on the photos.

But I digress, I did think of these ideas back in 2008 and thought, yeah, it would be more masculine if I went on those types of adventures or rode a motorcycle, and the most I've actually implemented was going to an amusement park and going on all of the rides including bungee jumping (two nice Christian white girls happened to join me on both sides so I didn't go at it alone even though I intended to, which was interesting to say the least, thank you God?!?). Putting up various pictures has always been an interest with online dating in the late 00s decade and I even took out a professional photoshoot, took pics next an attractive female cousin, but it didn't yield any big results or easy dates.
 

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It wasnt as bad ten to 15 or so years ago, even 5 years ago. Problem now everyone has a smartphone which makes it so much easier for a guy to sign up or a woman signing up just for validation.
Most of my issues against OLD comes from experience with OLD within the past 10 - 15 years. I was never really a happy camper with OLD and just had a little isolated jackpot here and there, but nothing that lasted. If you say it is worst now then that's really game over if I was pulling teeth back then.

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I di notice the quality of women have gone way down hill on old. I don't mean just looks but more baggage and all. 10 years ago the quality of women was much much better and less effort was needed to get a reply or dates. Little effort needed.
AT least you have some good experience with OLD. Most of my negativity with OLD is actually based on experiences with this back in 2006, where I was on POF, lavelife, adultfriendfinder and that felt like pulling teeth. Even Christian-cafe was too isolated and sporadic. Not from any experience today or recently since I've actually stopped since 2016 (3 years ago) taking it seriously as an option to meet women, or at best a healthy option.

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I think a lot of decent people have been scared off old. From what women tell me around here they get bombed with guys all age ranges and creeps too and seems to have got worse.

Quality even over the last 2 years way down but you still have the same ton of guys and more competing. Like around here it's like 10 guys to 1 on old from what the women tell me about the bombardment of messages they get.
What you are saying right now is the same thoughts I've had in 2006. This is 13 years ago. Look at my old posts and how people replied to me under the alias: Luke Skywalker. I was banned because people got frustrated for me because I kept failing with OLD. I eventually found someone in 2012 as one of those threads predicted, but hey that was 9 years ago now and it was a FLUKE. Lightening like that doesn't strike twice and must be a once and a lifetime experience. Nothing good with OLD has happened since then. You are saying it's worst today then I'm like wow.
 

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That's interesting. Unfortunately I have too many financial problems to afford the luxury of time, let alone money, to even consider any of the activities you mentioned and making photo shoots. Sounds like the stuff for middle/upper class white people. In a sense you are already subcommunicating you are wealthy and brave and I guess a fit and all together white man or something like that. Yeah, I can see women gravitating towards a profile because you are hitting their attraction triggers by playing up LMS on the photos.

But I digress, I did think of these ideas back in 2008 and thought, yeah, it would be more masculine if I went on those types of adventures or rode a motorcycle, and the most I've actually implemented was going to an amusement park and going on all of the rides including bungee jumping (two nice Christian white girls happened to join me on both sides so I didn't go at it alone even though I intended to, which was interesting to say the least, thank you God?!?). Putting up various pictures has always been an interest with online dating in the late 00s decade and I even took out a professional photoshoot, took pics next an attractive female cousin, but it didn't yield any big results or easy dates.
One poster suggested paying some escorts to hangout with you and take pics to look wealthy and popular with the ladies and another suggested photoshopping yourself into pics around hot ladies partying and that so it makes your status look in demand. Paying someone to photo shop shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

Even having a good camera phone with beauty mode helps. All the ladies use beauty mode.

Does your cousin have any cute friends that could maybe hangout one afternoon doing some fun stuff and take some pics?
 

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Most of my issues against OLD comes from experience with OLD within the past 10 - 15 years. I was never really a happy camper with OLD and just had a little isolated jackpot here and there, but nothing that lasted. If you say it is worst now then that's really game over if I was pulling teeth back then.



AT least you have some good experience with OLD. Most of my negativity with OLD is actually based on experiences with this back in 2006, where I was on POF, lavelife, adultfriendfinder and that felt like pulling teeth. Even Christian-cafe was too isolated and sporadic. Not from any experience today or recently since I've actually stopped since 2016 (3 years ago) taking it seriously as an option to meet women, or at best a healthy option.



What you are saying right now is the same thoughts I've had in 2006. This is 13 years ago. Look at my old posts and how people replied to me under the alias: Luke Skywalker. I was banned because people got frustrated for me because I kept failing with OLD. I eventually found someone in 2012 as one of those threads predicted, but hey that was 9 years ago now and it was a FLUKE. Lightening like that doesn't strike twice and must be a once and a lifetime experience. Nothing good with OLD has happened since then. You are saying it's worst today then I'm like wow.
Pof is a garbage app anyway, maybe step below tinder. 95 percent of the women on there I wouldn't touch and would be worried about STDs

All the apps seem to have gone downhill. For best looking women it seems match still has the best but they're a bit older but overall look less slvtty.

Try favebook dating app. Even with the dating desert I live in down here its easier to use and reply rate is a bit better too.
 

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One poster suggested paying some escorts to hangout with you and take pics to look wealthy and popular with the ladies and another suggested photoshopping yourself into pics around hot ladies partying and that so it makes your status look in demand. Paying someone to photo shop shouldn't cost an arm and a leg.

Even having a good camera phone with beauty mode helps. All the ladies use beauty mode.

Does your cousin have any cute friends that could maybe hangout one afternoon doing some fun stuff and take some pics?
The cousin was in a visit to Italy in August 2006. It was in my mind, during the trip, to take as many photos as I can while on this vacation with me with my cousin or just having fun in various locations within the trip. The idea was to post up some pics when I got back. However, the feedback I got was the photos still looked geeky and didn't have the type of traction that I would have expected.

Remember these types of experiments are being done during my prime when I was younger than today.

Why would I need a woman if I can just rent an escort? I guess you missed the thread where I got a very nasty demonic/spiritual reaction on December 6, 2014 after dealing with the escort named Bianca at 11:30pm-12:00 am or thereabouts on December 5, 2014. A severe reaction lasted over a month where I was unable to even drive by the place on the road. I'm going to go into another dimension if I deal with an escort or go in her vicinity and going into a world like that would re-set everything. My folks are very old now and I'm the only driver in this house. If I lose my mind again from some demonic attack, I bring my folks down with me and I might not come back next time if I get possessed by a devil coming from an escort and turn into a crazed flesh-eating zombie (my worst fear when I had those attacks).

There has been no vocal communication with any escort since Bianca/December 5, 2014, or Suzy/December 4, 2014.

Suppose there is an extreme reaction like that from a woman I meet from OLD. I'd just play it straight after a reaction like that. Go on a Christian site and just look for a potential future wife. No playing around after that reaction.
 

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I believe it. My first Tinder date last year, told me that when I was on Tinder talking to her, setting up the date, about 60 other guys were chatting at her as well. And while attractive (6/10 mid-twenties black gal), she was no super model.
 

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I believe it. My first Tinder date last year, told me that when I was on Tinder talking to her, setting up the date, about 60 other guys were chatting at her as well. And while attractive (6/10 mid-twenties black gal), she was no super model.
That is bad. You cant imagine a hot white girl if that is the case. She chose you out of the 60 guys or did she fvck all of them and you one of them she also fvcked.
 

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I believe it. My first Tinder date last year, told me that when I was on Tinder talking to her, setting up the date, about 60 other guys were chatting at her as well. And while attractive (6/10 mid-twenties black gal), she was no super model.
I believe it. It's so easy with phones now. Before 2010 or so most people had flip phones so you had to actually sit down at your PC, log on and browse OLD that way and actually devote more time to it, hence likely more serious people used it hence less work needed to get replies and secure a date.

And just think this was a black woman. If it were an white or asian woman that number would be more like 115 probably. I still think sites like Match are the best because you can at least write a decent message and impress that way and stand out from the pack more. Talking to another one on FB dating app today. She's 43 and 60 miles away. The FB dating app seems easier to get replies from due to the fact it's still new and not as many people bombarding it as of yet. You can leave a message by commenting on their photos. That is how I get women to like me and reply back. Most people don't know you can comment on photos and it acts just like a text message. Most treat the app like it's tinder and just hit like.
 

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That's interesting. Unfortunately I have too many financial problems to afford the luxury of time, let alone money, to even consider any of the activities you mentioned and making photo shoots. Sounds like the stuff for middle/upper class white people. In a sense you are already subcommunicating you are wealthy and brave and I guess a fit and all together white man or something like that. Yeah, I can see women gravitating towards a profile because you are hitting their attraction triggers by playing up LMS on the photos.

But I digress, I did think of these ideas back in 2008 and thought, yeah, it would be more masculine if I went on those types of adventures or rode a motorcycle, and the most I've actually implemented was going to an amusement park and going on all of the rides including bungee jumping (two nice Christian white girls happened to join me on both sides so I didn't go at it alone even though I intended to, which was interesting to say the least, thank you God?!?). Putting up various pictures has always been an interest with online dating in the late 00s decade and I even took out a professional photoshoot, took pics next an attractive female cousin, but it didn't yield any big results or easy dates.
That's a cop out dude. I came from the streets of Jamaica, Queens, hardly the rosy picture you are thinking of. No photo shoots, another person taking a pic with my phone. Everything I listed above I did through Groupon. Each activity was between 20 - 40 aside from the skydiving and zip-lining. Those were around 120, and I went to upstate NY to do it. MMA, that's a membership to a MMA gym, 20 bucks a month. Cheaper if you pay annually. I have side hustles, no reason why you can't too. So many opportunities, you just have to be hungry enough to want it. Listen, my parents were horrible financial role models. We lost our place due to them not having their finances straight. I am sure you can do some side gigs to make some extra change. You just need to want it bad enough. This owe, I'm f ucked in life ain't working. You are obviously a smart dude. Use your mind to make extra $$$.
 

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That's a cop out dude. I came from the streets of Jamaica, Queens, hardly the rosy picture you are thinking of. No photo shoots, another person taking a pic with my phone. Everything I listed above I did through Groupon. Each activity was between 20 - 40 aside from the skydiving and zip-lining. Those were around 120, and I went to upstate NY to do it. MMA, that's a membership to a MMA gym, 20 bucks a month. Cheaper if you pay annually. I have side hustles, no reason why you can't too. So many opportunities, you just have to be hungry enough to want it. Listen, my parents were horrible financial role models. We lost our place due to them not having their finances straight. I am sure you can do some side gigs to make some extra change. You just need to want it bad enough. This owe, I'm f ucked in life ain't working. You are obviously a smart dude. Use your mind to make extra $$$.
What about in my case? I have income coming in, 30 grand in the bank. What are some good activities that are not wallet busting and just cost a couple hundred bucks that will put you into contact with ladies and appeals to them?

The activities I like such as firearms and fishing don't exactly attract a lot of ladies.
 

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Don't take what they write too seriously. I remember back when I did use OLD (years ago), a co-worker's profile came up on the app and she wrote some of the most arrogant and crazy things in her profile. But in person, she would stutter when she tried to talk to me. One time she said hi to me and when I said hi back, she wasn't paying attention and walked into one of those large fake plant things they had in the lobby where I worked at the time. A lot of these people have personalities that are not congruent with their online profiles and what they say. Back when I did use OLD, the first thing women would say when they met me was "wow you're taller than I thought" or "wow you look hotter in person." I never used filters or lied about height, so I always seemed to be more impressive in person. But only because everyone else lied LOL. It's all B.S. I would never get mad over something this weak. The woman who wrote it is clearly living in a personal hell as it is.
 
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Don't take what they write too seriously. I remember back when I did use OLD (years ago), a co-worker's profile came up on the app and she wrote some of the most arrogant and crazy things in her profile. But in person, she would stutter when she tried to talk to me. One time she said hi to me and when I said hi back, she wasn't paying attention and walked into one of those large fake plant things they had in the lobby where I worked at the time. A lot of these people have personalities that are not congruent with their online profiles and what they say. Back when I did use OLD, the first thing women would say when they met me was "wow you're taller than I thought" or "wow you look hotter in person." I never used filters or lied about height, so I always seemed to be more impressive in person. But only because everyone else lied LOL. It's all B.S. I would never get mad over something this weak. The woman who wrote it is clearly living in a personal hell as it is.
These days everyone uses filters and lies about height a bit which I don't have an issue with really.

What chaps me is women trying to hide their fat in their photos. That is what i HATE the most. That's why when I get their numbers I look them up on spydailer and then when I get their name go on facebook as this has saved me from wasting time and money with land whale dates.
 

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What about in my case? I have income coming in, 30 grand in the bank. What are some good activities that are not wallet busting and just cost a couple hundred bucks that will put you into contact with ladies and appeals to them?

The activities I like such as firearms and fishing don't exactly attract a lot of ladies.
You don't listen to advice here. Everyone, I think even the forum admin, advised you on what to do, but you still go after GILFs, single moms and refuse to move. Happy to help, we all are, but you never follow any of the advice given.
 

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You don't listen to advice here. Everyone, I think even the forum admin, advised you on what to do, but you still go after GILFs, single moms and refuse to move. Happy to help, we all are, but you never follow any of the advice given.
But on OLD that's all I really see within a 50 mile radius is single moms. The women under 35 are usually land whales and overall not very many of them on OLD around here. Most of the decent ones are over 40. So on OLD what am I supposed to do if not many 35 and under women?

I only use OLD to talk to women right now.
 

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That is bad. You cant imagine a hot white girl if that is the case. She chose you out of the 60 guys or did she fvck all of them and you one of them she also fvcked.
She was in town for the weekend, as was I. So, I think it was just me.
 

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You dont have a chance to charm a lady online beyond your photos. You have to be chadlite for OLD to have a fighting chance to work without pullin teeth.
When it comes to online dating the only really successful ones I see getting relationships are the fat, disgusting ugly lardball types. I mean two of the same type hooking up with each other because they settle for that.

Otherwise for any normal people I just dont see very many relationships come from it unless they're two bottom of the barrel types.

I dont know of any coworkers who are normal that has had a successful relationship from old. Actually at my part time job none of the younger people use old. Except one guy who's like 300lbs and his wife is a petite hb2 he met on zoosk or match or something.
 

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That's a cop out dude. I came from the streets of Jamaica, Queens, hardly the rosy picture you are thinking of. No photo shoots, another person taking a pic with my phone. Everything I listed above I did through Groupon. Each activity was between 20 - 40 aside from the skydiving and zip-lining. Those were around 120, and I went to upstate NY to do it. MMA, that's a membership to a MMA gym, 20 bucks a month. Cheaper if you pay annually. I have side hustles, no reason why you can't too. So many opportunities, you just have to be hungry enough to want it. Listen, my parents were horrible financial role models. We lost our place due to them not having their finances straight. I am sure you can do some side gigs to make some extra change. You just need to want it bad enough. This owe, I'm f ucked in life ain't working. You are obviously a smart dude. Use your mind to make extra $$$.
You also need time. The point of money is not the admission-fee for the activities, but the point that you have time freed up because you don't have to work, chase the dollar, or do activities that will generate income. If the income is too small, which more often than not it is, and you don't have that much time or money at the end of the day once all the bills are paid then its simply a no go idea.
 
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