"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Casual friends to lovers?

NickSCFC2000

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Has anyone here ever had experience of this?

Perhaps not best friends or even close friends, but work colleagues or classmates that you were friends with before you got into a relationship with them.

How did this work out for you, what experiences have you had, good OR bad
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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tsmith2334

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I'm working on that right now.

I try to stay in the "casual friend" zone with someone I'm interested in. It's kind of like backwards thinking (i.e. you don't want to get too close to them), but based on the laws of attraction, it should be the route to take.
 

LostAndConfused

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Beware of sexual tension though because if it exists and you mean to hold off the girl as "casual friends" until you plan on making the move, it'll be too late. She'll take you as either too much of a pu$$y or uninterested.
 

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These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend (I don't have any close female friends...most girls my age are too damn flighty.)

Now, don't go trying to hang out with them all the time unless you've got the balls to make a move. They already like you for some reason if they agree to go out...make your intentions clear. It's much easier to be direct than play a bunch of fvcking games.
 

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MooseGod said:
These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend (I don't have any close female friends...most girls my age are too damn flighty.)

Now, don't go trying to hang out with them all the time unless you've got the balls to make a move. They already like you for some reason if they agree to go out...make your intentions clear. It's much easier to be direct than play a bunch of fvcking games.
What do you mean by girls your age being flighty?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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tsmith2334

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MooseGod said:
These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend
That's what I said before, dude. I try to keep a girl in the "casual friend" zone if I'm interested (before trying to escalate). The more the friendship flourishes, the more your chances of a relationship decrease.
 
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