"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Casual friends to lovers?

NickSCFC2000

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Has anyone here ever had experience of this?

Perhaps not best friends or even close friends, but work colleagues or classmates that you were friends with before you got into a relationship with them.

How did this work out for you, what experiences have you had, good OR bad
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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tsmith2334

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I'm working on that right now.

I try to stay in the "casual friend" zone with someone I'm interested in. It's kind of like backwards thinking (i.e. you don't want to get too close to them), but based on the laws of attraction, it should be the route to take.
 

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Beware of sexual tension though because if it exists and you mean to hold off the girl as "casual friends" until you plan on making the move, it'll be too late. She'll take you as either too much of a pu$$y or uninterested.
 

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These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend (I don't have any close female friends...most girls my age are too damn flighty.)

Now, don't go trying to hang out with them all the time unless you've got the balls to make a move. They already like you for some reason if they agree to go out...make your intentions clear. It's much easier to be direct than play a bunch of fvcking games.
 

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MooseGod said:
These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend (I don't have any close female friends...most girls my age are too damn flighty.)

Now, don't go trying to hang out with them all the time unless you've got the balls to make a move. They already like you for some reason if they agree to go out...make your intentions clear. It's much easier to be direct than play a bunch of fvcking games.
What do you mean by girls your age being flighty?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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tsmith2334

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MooseGod said:
These guys are noobs. Don't listen to 'em. :whistle:

The BEST relationships out there are people who start off casual friends...trust me. Almost every GF I've ever had started off as a casual friend
That's what I said before, dude. I try to keep a girl in the "casual friend" zone if I'm interested (before trying to escalate). The more the friendship flourishes, the more your chances of a relationship decrease.
 
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