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Can't put my finger on it but Canadian women are the worst of the Anglosphere.

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I exclude French Canadian women here.

Canadian women seem to have this sense of fakeness to them that women from other Anglo countries cannot pull off, like really fake. At the same time, they are also very cold and unattached in a way that American and western women from elsewhere cannot be. It is like a different brand of psycho crazy with them that other Anglo women cannot contend with at all.

The worst are women from Toronto, like wtf is up with that city.
 

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I exclude French Canadian women here.

Canadian women seem to have this sense of fakeness to them that women from other Anglo countries cannot pull off, like really fake. At the same time, they are also very cold and unattached in a way that American and western women from elsewhere cannot be. It is like a different brand of psycho crazy with them that other Anglo women cannot contend with at all.

The worst are women from Toronto, like wtf is up with that city.
I'm from Toronto. We have a reputation of being the incel capital of the world and people know that I'm an incel from Toronto.
Thank you for validating why I'm an incel and I simply live in a difficult city. You see, people think I'm not owning up to myself or not trying to improve myself, but you've seen first hand what a sh1thole the city is. What can I say? You are right. With women like that you aren't going to feel motivated. You sound frustrated rather than motivated. Then if they are not Anglo women, allot of other women are just struggling to make ends meet and have a hard life and you don't get that playful social type of vibe you might get out on in a rural area of the same province. I would still defend the province (Ontario) and you should try some smaller towns out.
 

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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
 

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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
Arguably I'd argue Hawaii is tha hardest place. Only after utilizing my strengths did I see results. But for most other ppl it was a horrible place for dating. Imagine a small island where only a handful of bars/clubs were open and you had every branch of the military plus tourists packed in there. The 4's were treated like 10's and many of them had **** attitudes w/ all time high lvls of attention seeking.
 

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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
$Oakville$
I grew up in the Hammer and the richest most enjoyable parties were in Oakville along lakeshore. I'll never forget those properties.
 

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I don't know what this means. I CAN tell you I live in rural Canada, and from everything I have heard Toronto women are the worst.

I wouldn't move to Toronto for $500,000 per year. They are so culturally different there I couldn't take it.
yes, I reread it and it doesn't appear to make sense, I live in midwestern Canada and I felt like you stood up a bit for Canadian women not in T.O. (like a wingman, but to a woman, me) ok
 

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Got it.

Yes I did stand up for them. In my experience, the larger the city, the snootier, more fake, and shallow the people.

Toronto and Vancouver are very much this way.

If you want a good man or woman......and by GOOD, I mean down to earth, give you the shirt off their back type of people......come to rural Canada, especially western Canada. The further you get from the city, the more you find this.

They won't be "fancy" people, they won't wear designer clothes........... but they will be honest, trustworthy, quality people for the most part. Their word means something.
Fancy people think they are the "quality" people
 

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Got it.

Yes I did stand up for them. In my experience, the larger the city, the snootier, more fake, and shallow the people.

Toronto and Vancouver are very much this way.

If you want a good man or woman......and by GOOD, I mean down to earth, give you the shirt off their back type of people......come to rural Canada, especially western Canada. The further you get from the city, the more you find this.

They won't be "fancy" people, they won't wear designer clothes........... but they will be honest, trustworthy, quality people for the most part. Their word means something.
that is the myth I bought...that's partly why its so crushing....he is in a rural town here his whole life. I thought it was a safe bet. Small town guys can still be damaged/sick.

Lesson learned: be aware of how your own mythologies can still cause you to ignore red flags and abandon your realistic boundaries.

You've read my anguish in the no contact just got dumped thread. I don't want to rehash it, I'm coming up on 2 full months where I haven't tried reaching or pinging him.

Now, for all other people I know in small towns across this province, YES! I fully agree they are the most caring and friendly people who would give you anything.
We vacationed in rural Nova Scotia growing up and its the same way there.
Waving and checking on you, asking if you need stuff from the city if they go, inviting you in for supper, insisting you sit down at coffee row...I'm charmed living here and the city sucks but there's small towns around that I will have house prices drop even further with covid 19 so I'm biding my time. We'll see.
 
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Yes they do think that. They think people in western Canada are a bunch of redneck hicks. And to be fair, some of our city people here feel the same way about rural people.

Whatever. I have lived in the city, and the country. Both have their benefits. The larger the city, the shallower the people, as a rule.

The priorities they put on appearances and keeping up with the Jones' is astounding.

No thanks, not for me.
what are you going to do about getting women though? city has more variety/abundance
 

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The house I got my first year here (2010) was about equidistant either way from the 2 cities.
Sounds like you're closer at least.
What I should have done was what I'm about to do and that is buy right outside one of these cities.

You've got good woman boundaries and appreciated the help you've given me in a state of insanity.

You're a good representation of western Canada and I'd vouch for ya.

Oh and do not do LDR, you're right, it sucks for relationships.
One of you has to be willing to move to the other one and since we both are members of Sosuave we know it has to be the woman.

Get a fresh university graduate who hasn't really started her life yet. Might be able to get her to rent in your town and submit to your lifestyle if she hasn't really started her 'adult' life yet(beginning of career, no permanent residence yet)

I was going to rent from the housing in his small town and I tried my best to get transferred to work near him but then it fell through. Looking for jobs near him I realised if I had got into healthcare I could always have found a job in a small town.
So Mauser, go for a nursing graduate who can take a job in your small town so there's no LDR.
 
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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.


If that is the case then a 10 in Toronto is a 7 in most normal cities lol. I have stayed in Toronto for months and been out many weekends. Don't flatter yourself, your women are not attractive in the slightest. LA actually has good looking women, you do not.
 

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If that is the case then a 10 in Toronto is a 7 in most normal cities lol. I have stayed in Toronto for months and been out many weekends. Don't flatter yourself, your women are not attractive in the slightest. LA actually has good looking women, you do not.
Maybe just through different experiences. They are not "my women" They just happen to be in the same city. Just what I see, subjectively. I have lived in Silverlake, CA for 4 months in 2013. If you have gone through certain venues or even stepped into any studio or casting central in Toronto you would see where they congregate. It isn't Hollywood North for no reason. There alot of things I don't like about Toronto, I'm not hyping it up. But I also cannot say woman here are ugly. There are also fair share of obese women in Canada, but nothing compared to what i've seen in the States, Australia and UK. I am sorry if they rejected you during your time here. It's quite common.
 
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I'm from Toronto. We have a reputation of being the incel capital of the world and people know that I'm an incel from Toronto.
Thank you for validating why I'm an incel and I simply live in a difficult city. You see, people think I'm not owning up to myself or not trying to improve myself, but you've seen first hand what a sh1thole the city is. What can I say? You are right. With women like that you aren't going to feel motivated. You sound frustrated rather than motivated. Then if they are not Anglo women, allot of other women are just struggling to make ends meet and have a hard life and you don't get that playful social type of vibe you might get out on in a rural area of the same province. I would still defend the province (Ontario) and you should try some smaller towns out.
not to mention that very few of them are hot
 
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Maybe just through different experiences. They are not "my women" They just happen to be in the same city. Just what I see, subjectively. I have lived in Silverlake, CA for 4 months in 2013. If you have gone through certain venues or even stepped into any studio or casting central in Toronto you would see where they congregate. It isn't Hollywood North for no reason. There alot of things I don't like about Toronto, I'm not hyping it up. But I also cannot say woman here are ugly. There are also fair share of obese women in Canada, but nothing compared to what i've seen in the States, Australia and UK. I am sorry if they rejected you during your time here. It's quite common.
Oh the typical Canadian passive aggressiveness at the end, gotta love it.

No, your women in Toronto are pretty hideous in apperance. Vancouver and Montreal have you beat. All anyone has to do is switch their Tinder to Toronto and they will find how hideous the women are compared to NYC, Miami, Austin, Charleston, Dallas, Nashvlle, and Chicago.

If your defense is "but this one place has all the hot women and is model central in the city", I cannot help you. Every big city will have an area where hot women congregate but as a whole, your women looked like swine and facially deformed witches. I am not surprised that a couple of places with high barriers to entry are packed with hot women because that is the only place the women can go to. It may seem like that because your city is not NYC where hot women can be found all over the city.

You're not the Hollywood of the North, you're the trailer park of Canada with a misplaced ego, stop promoting your dump of a town.
 

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Oh the typical Canadian passive aggressiveness at the end, gotta love it.

No, your women in Toronto are pretty hideous in apperance. Vancouver and Montreal have you beat. All anyone has to do is switch their Tinder to Toronto and they will find how hideous the women are compared to NYC, Miami, Austin, Charleston, Dallas, Nashvlle, and Chicago.

If your defense is "but this one place has all the hot women and is model central in the city", I cannot help you. Every big city will have an area where hot women congregate but as a whole, your women looked like swine and facially deformed witches. I am not surprised that a couple of places with high barriers to entry are packed with hot women because that is the only place the women can go to. It may seem like that because your city is not NYC where hot women can be found all over the city.

You're not the Hollywood of the North, you're the trailer park of Canada with a misplaced ego, stop promoting your dump of a town.

lol k.
 
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With Canadian women it is an expectations thing, that goes for Canadian people in general. We've been taught to think that they are nice, laid back, and the more relaxed version of Americans. I find that the opposite is true, Canadians have more to overcompensate for and tend to be on the rude and unwelcoming end as a result. From my travels, I can confirm that Canadian women are the coldest and least welcoming of all the Anglo women but French Canadian women are an exception here.

Guys from Canada I have known love to stir the pot and Canadian women are very fake.

Vancouver and Montreal do have some beautiful women though. I went to Vancouver and was blown away by the talent in the city, best city in North America if you like Asian women and brown women as well. I saw so many good looking Asian, Indian, and Persian women in the city. As for their approachability, I never tried to game them but social circles seemed to be king.

Montreal was decent too but I think it gets too overhyped on game forums. The nightlife was very underwhelming with the crowd being largely underaged, we went towards early fall so school was kicking off, this was in 2018. I still found the city safe though and beautiful, just that the game was underwhelming there. Not as many hot girls as I would have thought.

I laughed at the comment that said Toronto has hot women, not a chance amigo. Toronto to me is like the Detroit of Canada, you have a bunch of wannabe tough guys and fake dolled up women. Of all the major cities, it had the ugliest women although I do think the Indian girls from there were hot. Culturally, it felt very trashy and fake, like the people there tried to be cool but failed miserably at it. As an American, I kind of cringed at the nightlife there. The city itself was try hard with some of the trashiest women I have seen in North America.

Toronto women have a certain look to them, it is that plain-faced plain-featured look. While they are not inbred looking, it is tough to find hot girls there. It's a city of 6s.
 

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Never been to Canada, I've only dealt with Canadian women who were in the US and they always seemed fine.

I would have to say the absolute worst of the worst in terms of entitlement, fake kindness, overly sarcastic, snarky and irrational are women from San Francisco.....

Northern Cali is the worst in terms of bougie culture....
 

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Toronto is a shiithole, if my cousin didn't live there I would never go back. The people were asssholes , the number of hot women I saw was low and it didn't seem to me that the city had many interesting things about it. I live in the Miami and Fort Lauderdale area of Florida and have met some smokin hot women from Canada and have always had good experiences with them. I have been to Nova Scotia , New Brunswick , and New Foundland and the people were great. I want to go next to Alberta I hear the people their are also great and I have met some very beautiful women from their as well. When I've been to San Francisco and northern California for the most part I've liked it. It's true that you can find good people in large cities and real scumbags in rural areas, but usually it's easier to find good people in rural areas and scumbags in large cities.
 
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