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Can't put my finger on it but Canadian women are the worst of the Anglosphere.

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I exclude French Canadian women here.

Canadian women seem to have this sense of fakeness to them that women from other Anglo countries cannot pull off, like really fake. At the same time, they are also very cold and unattached in a way that American and western women from elsewhere cannot be. It is like a different brand of psycho crazy with them that other Anglo women cannot contend with at all.

The worst are women from Toronto, like wtf is up with that city.
 

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I exclude French Canadian women here.

Canadian women seem to have this sense of fakeness to them that women from other Anglo countries cannot pull off, like really fake. At the same time, they are also very cold and unattached in a way that American and western women from elsewhere cannot be. It is like a different brand of psycho crazy with them that other Anglo women cannot contend with at all.

The worst are women from Toronto, like wtf is up with that city.
I'm from Toronto. We have a reputation of being the incel capital of the world and people know that I'm an incel from Toronto.
Thank you for validating why I'm an incel and I simply live in a difficult city. You see, people think I'm not owning up to myself or not trying to improve myself, but you've seen first hand what a sh1thole the city is. What can I say? You are right. With women like that you aren't going to feel motivated. You sound frustrated rather than motivated. Then if they are not Anglo women, allot of other women are just struggling to make ends meet and have a hard life and you don't get that playful social type of vibe you might get out on in a rural area of the same province. I would still defend the province (Ontario) and you should try some smaller towns out.
 

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I exclude French Canadian women here.

Canadian women seem to have this sense of fakeness to them that women from other Anglo countries cannot pull off, like really fake. At the same time, they are also very cold and unattached in a way that American and western women from elsewhere cannot be. It is like a different brand of psycho crazy with them that other Anglo women cannot contend with at all.

The worst are women from Toronto, like wtf is up with that city.
CANADIAN women are not like that. Toronto, very well could be.
 

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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
 
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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
Arguably I'd argue Hawaii is tha hardest place. Only after utilizing my strengths did I see results. But for most other ppl it was a horrible place for dating. Imagine a small island where only a handful of bars/clubs were open and you had every branch of the military plus tourists packed in there. The 4's were treated like 10's and many of them had **** attitudes w/ all time high lvls of attention seeking.
 

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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.
$Oakville$
I grew up in the Hammer and the richest most enjoyable parties were in Oakville along lakeshore. I'll never forget those properties.
 

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awww, ^wing (for the idea)

I don't know what this means. I CAN tell you I live in rural Canada, and from everything I have heard Toronto women are the worst.

I wouldn't move to Toronto for $500,000 per year. They are so culturally different there I couldn't take it.
 

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I don't know what this means. I CAN tell you I live in rural Canada, and from everything I have heard Toronto women are the worst.

I wouldn't move to Toronto for $500,000 per year. They are so culturally different there I couldn't take it.
yes, I reread it and it doesn't appear to make sense, I live in midwestern Canada and I felt like you stood up a bit for Canadian women not in T.O. (like a wingman, but to a woman, me) ok
 
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yes, I reread it and it doesn't appear to make sense, I live in midwestern Canada and I felt like you stood up a bit for Canadian women not in T.O. (like a wingman, but to a woman, me) ok
Got it.

Yes I did stand up for them. In my experience, the larger the city, the snootier, more fake, and shallow the people.

Toronto and Vancouver are very much this way.

If you want a good man or woman......and by GOOD, I mean down to earth, give you the shirt off their back type of people......come to rural Canada, especially western Canada. The further you get from the city, the more you find this.

They won't be "fancy" people, they won't wear designer clothes........... but they will be honest, trustworthy, quality people for the most part. Their word means something.
 

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Got it.

Yes I did stand up for them. In my experience, the larger the city, the snootier, more fake, and shallow the people.

Toronto and Vancouver are very much this way.

If you want a good man or woman......and by GOOD, I mean down to earth, give you the shirt off their back type of people......come to rural Canada, especially western Canada. The further you get from the city, the more you find this.

They won't be "fancy" people, they won't wear designer clothes........... but they will be honest, trustworthy, quality people for the most part. Their word means something.
Fancy people think they are the "quality" people
 

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Fancy people think they are the "quality" people

Yes they do think that. They think people in western Canada are a bunch of redneck hicks. And to be fair, some of our city people here feel the same way about rural people.

Whatever. I have lived in the city, and the country. Both have their benefits. The larger the city, the shallower the people, as a rule.

The priorities they put on appearances and keeping up with the Jones' is astounding.

No thanks, not for me.
 

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Got it.

Yes I did stand up for them. In my experience, the larger the city, the snootier, more fake, and shallow the people.

Toronto and Vancouver are very much this way.

If you want a good man or woman......and by GOOD, I mean down to earth, give you the shirt off their back type of people......come to rural Canada, especially western Canada. The further you get from the city, the more you find this.

They won't be "fancy" people, they won't wear designer clothes........... but they will be honest, trustworthy, quality people for the most part. Their word means something.
that is the myth I bought...that's partly why its so crushing....he is in a rural town here his whole life. I thought it was a safe bet. Small town guys can still be damaged/sick.

Lesson learned: be aware of how your own mythologies can still cause you to ignore red flags and abandon your realistic boundaries.

You've read my anguish in the no contact just got dumped thread. I don't want to rehash it, I'm coming up on 2 full months where I haven't tried reaching or pinging him.

Now, for all other people I know in small towns across this province, YES! I fully agree they are the most caring and friendly people who would give you anything.
We vacationed in rural Nova Scotia growing up and its the same way there.
Waving and checking on you, asking if you need stuff from the city if they go, inviting you in for supper, insisting you sit down at coffee row...I'm charmed living here and the city sucks but there's small towns around that I will have house prices drop even further with covid 19 so I'm biding my time. We'll see.
 
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Yes they do think that. They think people in western Canada are a bunch of redneck hicks. And to be fair, some of our city people here feel the same way about rural people.

Whatever. I have lived in the city, and the country. Both have their benefits. The larger the city, the shallower the people, as a rule.

The priorities they put on appearances and keeping up with the Jones' is astounding.

No thanks, not for me.
what are you going to do about getting women though? city has more variety/abundance
 
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what are you going to do about getting women though? city has more variety/abundance
I agree, the city has more choice, variety, abundance and opportunity.

I am NOT against dating someone from the city, and in fact have. Two different cities. Problem is, they are 100 km and 185 km away, respectively. Too far for a relationship.

I won't rule it out though, and once this COVID has passed will be going to some meet-up group functions.

Having said that, right now women have kind of taken a back seat for me. I am focusing more on my work, which is extremely busy these days, building wealth....and TBH, are very tired of women's games and wishy washy-ness.

I asked a woman out from my local town - she had to check her schedule to see if she had to run her kids around on the weekend for work (it was a day long ski-doo race) She DID get back to me, and said she couldn't. No harm, no foul.

Two weeks later I invited her to a sporting activity, where we participate. She said she would get back to me before Thursday(The event was on Thursday)....she didn't get back to me. So, I deleted her number, deleted her off Facebook and carried on.

Was I too rash? I don't think so. Fvck me, if I was important to you, you would not have forgotten. If life got busy and you DID forget........you would reach out, apologize and try and set something else up. She didn't do that. That tells me low interest, and a waste of my time. So she got toasted. Two months later, she reached out at Easter to wish me a Happy Easter. I simply replied "Thanks, same to you"

I am not chasing women any more. I bring a HUGE amount to the table, and I simply won't waste my time on low interest, or flakes, or mind games.

Flaky behavior – stop contacting, walk away.

Mind Games – stop contacting, walk away

Low interest - stop contacting, walk away.

Loss of interest in sex - stop contacting, walk away.

Not available to go on a date and doesn't offer an alternative ? - stop contacting, walk away.
 

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The house I got my first year here (2010) was about equidistant either way from the 2 cities.
Sounds like you're closer at least.
What I should have done was what I'm about to do and that is buy right outside one of these cities.

You've got good woman boundaries and appreciated the help you've given me in a state of insanity.

You're a good representation of western Canada and I'd vouch for ya.

Oh and do not do LDR, you're right, it sucks for relationships.
One of you has to be willing to move to the other one and since we both are members of Sosuave we know it has to be the woman.

Get a fresh university graduate who hasn't really started her life yet. Might be able to get her to rent in your town and submit to your lifestyle if she hasn't really started her 'adult' life yet(beginning of career, no permanent residence yet)

I was going to rent from the housing in his small town and I tried my best to get transferred to work near him but then it fell through. Looking for jobs near him I realised if I had got into healthcare I could always have found a job in a small town.
So Mauser, go for a nursing graduate who can take a job in your small town so there's no LDR.
 
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I am from Toronto and I can tell you this. If you can pull in Toronto, you can pull from anywhere in the world. The personalities, the style and all the IG "models" and "influencers" here are very similar to the woman in LA. I have travelled to a few places and was always asked about the women in other countries. Ultimately, the grass wasn't greener on the other side. The woman alot of times are selfish, vain, and in the rat race for social status and money. But go downtown Toronto on a Friday night and it is littered with 10's. Alot of them are from our burbs like Mississauga, Oakville, Markham, Burlington etc. That's just how it is here. Ever been to the Thompson rooftop on any day of the week? The woman look like they're straight out of a soap opera or a porn set.


If that is the case then a 10 in Toronto is a 7 in most normal cities lol. I have stayed in Toronto for months and been out many weekends. Don't flatter yourself, your women are not attractive in the slightest. LA actually has good looking women, you do not.
 

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If that is the case then a 10 in Toronto is a 7 in most normal cities lol. I have stayed in Toronto for months and been out many weekends. Don't flatter yourself, your women are not attractive in the slightest. LA actually has good looking women, you do not.
Maybe just through different experiences. They are not "my women" They just happen to be in the same city. Just what I see, subjectively. I have lived in Silverlake, CA for 4 months in 2013. If you have gone through certain venues or even stepped into any studio or casting central in Toronto you would see where they congregate. It isn't Hollywood North for no reason. There alot of things I don't like about Toronto, I'm not hyping it up. But I also cannot say woman here are ugly. There are also fair share of obese women in Canada, but nothing compared to what i've seen in the States, Australia and UK. I am sorry if they rejected you during your time here. It's quite common.
 
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I'm from Toronto. We have a reputation of being the incel capital of the world and people know that I'm an incel from Toronto.
Thank you for validating why I'm an incel and I simply live in a difficult city. You see, people think I'm not owning up to myself or not trying to improve myself, but you've seen first hand what a sh1thole the city is. What can I say? You are right. With women like that you aren't going to feel motivated. You sound frustrated rather than motivated. Then if they are not Anglo women, allot of other women are just struggling to make ends meet and have a hard life and you don't get that playful social type of vibe you might get out on in a rural area of the same province. I would still defend the province (Ontario) and you should try some smaller towns out.
not to mention that very few of them are hot
 
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