"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Cant get the other side of the game wtf??

youngmack

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Since i came on here i learned alot that i never knew existed. Learned about self improvement,NC,inner game, ETC.

Im in a dilemma though. I dont know the other side of it which is actually interacting with girls ! My conversation skills suck ! I know what not to do when dealing with girls that i know well.

I just cant seem to be able to make a girl want me through conversation. I always attract them, then when i have them my conversations BORE THEM TO DEATH and they run away.

My mind is always empty on what interesting and wiity things to say. I have a friend who does NOTHING but text girls and they are always all over him, He dosent even go on dates with them but somehow hes gets them hooked on him through conversation.

Any help ya'll?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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NobodyCares1

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yeah I had and still have this problem... though not as much as I used to... the only thing that helped me was trying to converse as much as possible... also find someone who is a great at conversations.... talk with that person a lot a observe what are they doing and what are they talking about...

also a big help is to have an interesting life... then if nothing you can at least talk about all the stuff that you have experienced...
 

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Talk about sex, it's interesting. Basically something interesting. It is where "negs" come from, you tell her something negative about herself to upset and disqualify her, but it makes her FEEL something.

You just need to make her feel something as much as you can.

Sorry for vagueness, but I'm really too tired to think of something specific. Go to the very top of the screen and click on the link that says "How to not be boring".
 

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Yeah this really sucks, I've been able to pull in HB8s and above through my physical appearance (i'm not the best looking guy but i dress really nice and my waves are always on spin),

But once i do and we have convos i bore them to death. I dont keep thier interest because frankly i just dont know how to talk to or flirt with them in a way that will induce good emotional thoughts in thier minds while causing an increase in interest.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I have similar problem... I can approach a girl... have a good conversation with her... sometimes even really great conversation... I'm good looking... and I see that the girl is all over me... but then I text her and after some time try to set up a date and boom... she flakes... she loses her interest completely...

I mean I usually end up making out with the first or the second girl that I approach... I get very few rejections when approaching but can't set up a date later at all...
 

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youngmack said:
My mind is always empty on what interesting and wiity things to say.


That's because you're thinking about it.

Remember "inner game"?

Yeah, the same applies to this.

You are naturally a ladies man...
I hate to draw this short, but stop worrying so much.

Just keep going and improving. Eventually, you become a more witty and snappy person.

Like I said to another young man:

The game is not about the women.


Hope this could help.

Namaste.
 

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trying going on an action date, or take her along to DO something. you will then be able to talk about whatever you're doing together instead of trying to make conversation out of nothing.
 

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Keep it light. No religion, politics or talk of all the problems on the world ..
Just tease her but nothing hurtful.. Just talk to them like people, don't treat em like some mythical creature
Main thing is not be nervous and you get rid of that thru allowing yourself to be rejected
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ok - to help answer this question, tell us about some cool stuff you are doing in your life right now..
 
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