"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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C&F When to stop

Analyzeit

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I pretty much have always been a complete natural and C&F when i read guides on it, there almost exact replicas of my conversations or i could probably right my own guide and it would put most of those guides to shame.

But after i get a bit of playful hitting and all that crap from a girl (is that even a good sign????) I feel i lose it a little and they get bored of it as if they just want a normal conversation, which I happen to be nice and bad at and whats worse i already know a lot about them by then and can't even start a conversation easily.

I was just wondering if you think I'm on the right lines with this?? oh and if playful hitting and all that crap is a good sign coz i sure get it a lot
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Cassanova_Child

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Analyzeit said:
I pretty much have always been a complete natural and C&F when i read guides on it, there almost exact replicas of my conversations or i could probably right my own guide and it would put most of those guides to shame.

But after i get a bit of playful hitting and all that crap from a girl (is that even a good sign????) I feel i lose it a little and they get bored of it as if they just want a normal conversation, which I happen to be nice and bad at and whats worse i already know a lot about them by then and can't even start a conversation easily.

I was just wondering if you think I'm on the right lines with this?? oh and if playful hitting and all that crap is a good sign coz i sure get it a lot
C+F is well and good as a supplement to your regular game, and when you're talking. but you cant rely on it. throw some other stuff in, tell stories, tease them, etc...

and yes, playful hitting is a good sign.
 

War Against Betaism

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There isn't a time to stop when it comes to C&F. David DeAngelo wasn't lying when he said you can use it over and over again. There is truly no limit to it. The thing is C&F and "normal conversations" go hand in hand; you can't really C&F unless you have the base of having "normal conversations" fixed in there.

This is what I kind of don't like about David D's teachings. He dissects C&F from normal conversation and makes it seem like raw C&F is a sure fire method to get women to get people to buy his sh1t when in reality C&F and how you normally talk to women (unless you're an AFC) are actually part of the whole formula.
 
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