"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
C&F Comebacks to 'I Have a Boyfriend'
- Thread starter Krassus
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
bust.it
Don Juan
Yeah on these boards some of those lines are funny, but IRL that sh1t DOESN'T WORK. She's not looking for some lame-ass joke that will convince her "what a great guy you are"; instead, she's IMPLYING 1 of 2 things.
1) "FVCK OFF. For some reason, you bore me, aren't good-looking enough, and/or haven't proven your worth. I don't want to have anything to do with you, so please, leave me alone. I don't want to reject you directly so I'll tell you I have a bf and hope you catch on."
-in this case, your "C+F responses" will do absolutely jack-sh1t. It'll only piss her off more. It doesn't matter if she has a BF or not; she wants you out of her face. Don't take this one personally: just realize that this is the time to eject.
2) "You're cute/charming/funny/interesting, but you haven't given me ENOUGH reason to sleep with you yet. If you adjust your game a little and persist, you might just make me wet enough to get me. I'm challenging you to seperate yourself from the other men and STEP UP to the plate... how bad do you want it? Show me you're willing to work for me."
-here, she's hooked but she still needs more reasons to JUSTIFY anything she gives you (number, date, lay). She's offering a challenge that 90% of (AFC) men will fail. This is where you shine. Now, most of those lines will come off as try-hard, desperate, and make you look like you're pretending to shake off a REJECTION. Instead of a C+F line, come back into this game with an ATTITUDE that will sweep her off her feet.
BOTTOM LINE: With field experience (read: getting out there and getting shot down hundreds of times), you'll start to be able to recognize which one she's implying. Women HATE stating things directly; they much rather HINT stuff and hope we get the drift. Read body language (tonality, body/body part position, lean into you, head, eyes etc etc) to get the vibe. When you can tell these two apart, you've mastered half the game. I will tell you, though, that if it's case one, NONE of these lines will work. SHe's just simply not interested in playing your game. Don't make a fool out of yourself... there are SO many other chicks out there who want you (right?)
Also, I need to stress that if it's case two (ie. she wants more to justify her actions), don't look for a line to use... look for an ATTITUDE. Be the man that she *might* be able to get *IF* she's a good girl. CALL HER ON HER BULLSH1T!! "I have a boyfriend" HA! Little does she know what you have up your sleeves. You don't need her... lol.
Plus, if you play it right and she chases you, call her on her own sh1t later: Let's say she touches you or moves to kiss you: "Woah, slow down there. I thought you said you had a boyfriend?" *grin*. Make her WORK for it. Turn that sh1t on her.
Yeah. But whatever you do, don't take "i have a bf" (let's start the acronym IHAB-- coined right now) TOO personally, guys. Maybe she's having a bad day and doesn't want to be PU'ed. next. If your game is tight this stuff will come naturally. Figure out what her body is saying and not her mouth.
PS. If you ARE going to use a canned response, don't ever EVER EVER diss her bf. bad idea.
thejuice
Master Don Juan
If she tells you that she has a bf, it only means that shes not interested in you AT THE MOMENT. If she isnt interested in you AT THE MOMENT, it doesn't mean she won't be if youre persistent. You can walk away if you choose not to trouble yourself to get a number but youre missing an opportunity to score. You shouldn't be discouraged so easily
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Bloodsport
Don Juan
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Me: Does he know you have bad taste?
McKindley
Senior Don Juan
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: What's his name
Her: Steve
You: I heard Steve likes little boys
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: I have a Scottish Terrier. Who cares?
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: Woah, not so fast honey, I just met you
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: Enough about you, lets talk about me
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: ****! Does he know about us?
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: Boyfriend's are like marionettes, you cut the string, and they fall to the ground (a friend of mine used to use this one)
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: Is he the jelous type?
Her: Yes
You: So you're saying we just can't let him know about us then?
Her: I have a boyfriend
You: I hate to put you in this type of situation, but its either me or him. I need to know if I should move on, you know what I'm saying?
Bloodsport
Don Juan
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LOL
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
TooColdUlrick
Master Don Juan
that's what i usually do...
"gee, that's nice...so anyway..."
another fun thing is to totally ambush her.
her: i have a boyfriend.
you: are you interested in improving yourself.
her: yes.
you: well then...lets talk about this...blah blah blah...
if she answers No (e.g. she's not looking to improve herself), then you come back with,
you: so, you have low self esteem?
her: oh, no no no...it's just that...
you: proceed with bf smashing ala' Ross J.
i can't wait for chicks to tell me about their BF's. it's just a b!tch shield. most guys give up right then and there.
THA REALNESS
Banned
Heizen
Senior Don Juan
Me: Whoa! I'v only known you got a few minutes and already you are giving me problems. I can see this relationship isnt going to work out
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
TurboLover
Senior Don Juan
Her: I have a boyfriend.
Him: Thats fine, I'm married.
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
Papi Jack
Don Juan
"Oh I'm sorry..."
(as if you were apologizing for hitting on her and sad face)Then *charming smile* *eye contact* and you say:
"...but let's not talk about our ploblems, alrtight?"
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.