"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Buyer's remorse??

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Ok, i wasn't planning on posting any situation-specific threads, but I am pretty confused. Here's the deal. I'll make it short since you guys probably know the bs details anyway since it hapens to everyone. Met a girl at my friends bday party. Gamed her perfectly all night, got the number. find out later that my friend wants her, but it's never gonna happen. I texted her (I know, bad move) a few times to come out with me and some friends. Showed up once with friends and left within 5 minutes to another club. Positive resposnses to about 5 texts over a period of about 3 weeks, then stops responding altogether. Adds me on myspace, and doesn't respond to any emails there. I'd really like to bang her but not sure what the deal is. i don't think friend zoned because I haven't hung out with her enough to fall into the friend hole. Only other idea I have is that my "friend" may have made me out to be an a-hole since he wants her. WHat ahould I do now? Give up on her?? Any ideas? Thanks.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Your friend probably isn't to be blamed here. The "5 texts over 3 weeks" weak-sauce move is more likely.
 

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So, you mean I should have hit up more, or sooner? Teh 5 texts she wrote back on were the only ones I sent her.
 

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Nope. You should've picked up the phone, rung her and asked her to hang out on such & such dates. Instead of 5 texts over 3 weeks, it could've been 5 dates.

When you game it right and get the number, strike when the iron is hot.
 

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Drewskie said:
. Gamed her perfectly all night, got the number. find out later that my friend wants her, but it's never gonna happen. I texted her (I know, bad move) a few times to come out with me and some friends.

Not good. No friends should be present if you're trying to get with a girl until she's gone out 10 times with you alone.

Showed up once with friends and left within 5 minutes to another club. Positive resposnses to about 5 texts over a period of about 3 weeks, then stops responding altogether. Adds me on myspace, and doesn't respond to any emails there. I'd really like to bang her but not sure what the deal is. i don't think friend zoned because I haven't hung out with her enough to fall into the friend hole.

5 texts over 3 weeks = 1 text every 4 days. That's not really lover zone. Myspace doesn't mean much either, I'd rather she take you off there than put you on. She's trying to make you her friend as much as possible.


Only other idea I have is that my "friend" may have made me out to be an a-hole since he wants her.

I doubt that. That's what you want to believe.


WHat ahould I do now? Give up on her?? Any ideas? Thanks.

You should text her

"I'd really love to you this weekend. Do you have time to go for lunch on Saturday?"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DonJuan11 said:

You should text her
"I'd really love to you this weekend. Do you have time to go for lunch on Saturday?"
incorrect. He needs to stop being a wimp and call her. Texting is the way to the friend zone.

call her, say if you have to leave a voice mail "hey its _____, wanna come chill with me at ____ on ____,gimme a call (your number), bye"

like the other poster said in this thread, you should have rung her up when the iron was hot. After you meet them you need to call them and get your voice implanted in their head. Remember that a woman hearing your voice gets her thinking about you in ways that txting does not. Texting will most times get you into her gal pal status. I don't blame her for forgetting about you remember that girls have very fast fading interest levels, so strike while the iron is hot like it was already said in this thread.

1 thing you should do next time you meet another girl is when you are going to stablish the first contact by phone (lets say 3 days after you meet her) you can txt her, wait for her reply than call her like 2 mins after and say "hey i just read your message, whats up etc etc." It is very important to stablish a phone conversation with her and get your voice implanted in her head.

You need to stop worrying so much about this one because you only got 1 option which is asking her out. If you don't get a date (which is 95% likely because you never really showed your intentions with her and waited too long so she lost interest) you can forget about her.
 

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hit her up again ti invite her to a party..... zero response? Hat's the next move?? Move on??
 

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Fair enough, thanks. I think i was a little past the two strikes anyway. :cool:
 

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f28300. Kudos on bringing up the 2 Strikes Rule.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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