Ok, i wasn't planning on posting any situation-specific threads, but I am pretty confused. Here's the deal. I'll make it short since you guys probably know the bs details anyway since it hapens to everyone. Met a girl at my friends bday party. Gamed her perfectly all night, got the number. find out later that my friend wants her, but it's never gonna happen. I texted her (I know, bad move) a few times to come out with me and some friends. Showed up once with friends and left within 5 minutes to another club. Positive resposnses to about 5 texts over a period of about 3 weeks, then stops responding altogether. Adds me on myspace, and doesn't respond to any emails there. I'd really like to bang her but not sure what the deal is. i don't think friend zoned because I haven't hung out with her enough to fall into the friend hole. Only other idea I have is that my "friend" may have made me out to be an a-hole since he wants her. WHat ahould I do now? Give up on her?? Any ideas? Thanks.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Buyer's remorse??
- Thread starter Drewskie
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Nope. You should've picked up the phone, rung her and asked her to hang out on such & such dates. Instead of 5 texts over 3 weeks, it could've been 5 dates.
When you game it right and get the number, strike when the iron is hot.
When you game it right and get the number, strike when the iron is hot.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
incorrect. He needs to stop being a wimp and call her. Texting is the way to the friend zone.DonJuan11 said:
call her, say if you have to leave a voice mail "hey its _____, wanna come chill with me at ____ on ____,gimme a call (your number), bye"
like the other poster said in this thread, you should have rung her up when the iron was hot. After you meet them you need to call them and get your voice implanted in their head. Remember that a woman hearing your voice gets her thinking about you in ways that txting does not. Texting will most times get you into her gal pal status. I don't blame her for forgetting about you remember that girls have very fast fading interest levels, so strike while the iron is hot like it was already said in this thread.
1 thing you should do next time you meet another girl is when you are going to stablish the first contact by phone (lets say 3 days after you meet her) you can txt her, wait for her reply than call her like 2 mins after and say "hey i just read your message, whats up etc etc." It is very important to stablish a phone conversation with her and get your voice implanted in her head.
You need to stop worrying so much about this one because you only got 1 option which is asking her out. If you don't get a date (which is 95% likely because you never really showed your intentions with her and waited too long so she lost interest) you can forget about her.
read the 2 strikes ruleDrewskie said:
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Don Juan
f28300. Kudos on bringing up the 2 Strikes Rule.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.