"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Building deep rapport.

david90

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I have no problem making a girl laugh when I first meet her. I make her laugh by messing around, telling jokes, misinterpreting and being sarcastic. The girl enjoys my company but I can tell that the rapport i'm building by entertaining her is very superficial. I feel that there is no emotional connecting between me and the gril.

How do I take it to the next level and build a rapport/trust with the girl that is comparable to the rapport/trust between best friends?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I got this.....

This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
 

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Cronus said:
This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
yes! you can funny while your doing this... so you can be ur self while getting deeper and deeper with the convo.
 

david90

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Cronus said:
This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
Any other tips? Is there a thread that you recommend me reading? Where the heck is the bible?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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