"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Building deep rapport.

david90

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I have no problem making a girl laugh when I first meet her. I make her laugh by messing around, telling jokes, misinterpreting and being sarcastic. The girl enjoys my company but I can tell that the rapport i'm building by entertaining her is very superficial. I feel that there is no emotional connecting between me and the gril.

How do I take it to the next level and build a rapport/trust with the girl that is comparable to the rapport/trust between best friends?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I got this.....

This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
 

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Cronus said:
This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
yes! you can funny while your doing this... so you can be ur self while getting deeper and deeper with the convo.
 

david90

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Cronus said:
This was one of my problems BIG time. I would keep teasing and entertaining, but I would get nowhere. All you have to do, after you got her interested and kept her through the intial stage, is ask more personal questions. Simple.

This is where the conversation skills come in. Ask her name, where she is from, what is she doing, what did she do this weekend. It is important to get her involved in the conversation. If she willingly gets involved, then you know she is interested and can pursue something else.

For example, you just met a chick at subway and teased her about her choice of sandwich, how can she put mustard on a sandwich, doesn't she know that it is only for hotdogs?:p

Intro yourself exchange names.
Where is she from?
Her: blah, blah, blah (she is now contributing to the conv, she didn't have to tell you)
You: I hear that it is (blah blah) there, where I'm from it is (blah blah)

[this gives her two threads to talk about, what it is like where she is from, or asks where you are from, If she continues the conv. from this point, you are in.]

You/Her: Continue conversation

You can now sit and eat with her, or you can get her number and leave.


The more interesting and longer conversation you had with her results in a better chance of her not flaking at a later time.
Any other tips? Is there a thread that you recommend me reading? Where the heck is the bible?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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