"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Body or face?

Mjazz

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Im just curious, would you guys rather date a girl with a super hot body but ok face or a girl with a super nice face and ok body?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jay Jay

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I come to sites like this

so I never have to make that kinda compromise.
 

Randallpink83

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FACE by far.... I decide wether a girl is pretty or ugly by how her face looks... Sometims even "Thicker" girls with REALLY pretty faces, I will still consider them very pretty... (with big boobs and asses and thighs.. lol)

Yeah its all about the face for me!

But I dont neglect the body by any means.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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qweretyuiopas

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Im a face man, I love a good body too, and wouldnt mind an ok face but a good body, but if she ug in the face I dont care if her body a 10 I aint wit it
 

CrunchyNut

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Face, but the body has to be ok-cant be an ug!
 

rakishness

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For a long term relationship....the face is more important. For the short term the body is MUCH more important. In bed....the body is what makes the difference.:D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Don Juan Montoya

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Body of course. If a chick has a cute face & cruddy body, she can get really fat.........if she is skinny, she has less of a chance of getting fat.......i would much rather have a chick that has rosanne barr's face & jessica alba body instead of vice versa........
 

rakishness

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Its hard to tell if a girl has a hot body in the winter time. In the winter girls cover up more. Or sometimes in the summer they mayl wear baggy clothes. Have you ever met a girl whose body looked "ok" with clothes on but was UNBELIEVABLE without clothes? I have.....it can be shocking.
 

PheonixUK

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I would say face is way more important then body

With just exercise and toning a woman can move from a 3 body to a 7 body
What exercises do you know that can turn a 3 face into a 7 face?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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