"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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JackBauer24

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Talking to a pretty/chubby girl. Want her to go down on me. She says she only does sexual stuff if she's in a relationship. Doesn't even kiss on the first date most of the time. Wants a serious relationship. I told her straight out I'm not going to be her boyfriend just to get head. Has agreed to meet me, however, for a "date." She said that she thinks I'm cute, so that's obviously good.

1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JackBauer24 said:
1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
If you bring her to a place where they serve alcohol you might kill two birds with one stone.
 

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DonGordon...thanks for your useless response.

DJDamage...she's a drinker...that's perfect, man. Thank you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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And getting one drunk to blow you...well that just doesn't speak well for you.
 

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DonGordon...who cares about "social proof" if I'm going to some bar I never go to.

Rhoto...desperate times call for desperate measures. And if you were dating/f*cking a HB10, you wouldn't be on this site.
 

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I'm actually sleeping with 5 different women at the moment, and 2 that are angry at me for seeing other women, but still send me texts at twilight telling me about how their boy friends suck, or that they want to hang out. All different and very good looking.

There are guys on this site getting ass every 2 hours, just so you know, not every one is "desperate." And I'm on this site because its fun, and kills time in between *****y clients.

Don't put yourself down that much.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
so if you ve never even seen this girl, how did you ask her about the bj? over the phone? online?

btw, if you haven't seen her in person and you think she s "chubby", chances are she s a fvcking whale
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Talking to the chubby girl on the phone, I learned I have a lot of work to do. My brother was listening to the phone call and said I sounded incredibly nervous at first and that I said "I dunno" repeatedly.
 

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Anyone can say that over a computer, Rhoto. Until I see the pictures with you in them, you're just another KJ.
 

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Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
WOW!...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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That's the funny thing, I cold approched this 30 year old (HB9-10)...my first cold approach in over 6 years. I was admittedly nervous...but did a hell of a lot better than on the phone. She was walking by, overwhelmed by her shopping bags, so I smile at her and say "Hi" she says "Hi" I say "You look like your about to trip over yourself or your bags." She says "I'm shopping for an outfit...blah blah blah" and she gave me her myspace because she said she's on myspace more often than she's on the phone, and we've been talking. Still, because it's not progressing fast enough, I found that chubby girl and probably would have met her for a BJ today if she agreed.
 
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