"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JackBauer24

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Talking to a pretty/chubby girl. Want her to go down on me. She says she only does sexual stuff if she's in a relationship. Doesn't even kiss on the first date most of the time. Wants a serious relationship. I told her straight out I'm not going to be her boyfriend just to get head. Has agreed to meet me, however, for a "date." She said that she thinks I'm cute, so that's obviously good.

1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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JackBauer24 said:
1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
If you bring her to a place where they serve alcohol you might kill two birds with one stone.
 

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DonGordon...thanks for your useless response.

DJDamage...she's a drinker...that's perfect, man. Thank you.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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And getting one drunk to blow you...well that just doesn't speak well for you.
 

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DonGordon...who cares about "social proof" if I'm going to some bar I never go to.

Rhoto...desperate times call for desperate measures. And if you were dating/f*cking a HB10, you wouldn't be on this site.
 

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I'm actually sleeping with 5 different women at the moment, and 2 that are angry at me for seeing other women, but still send me texts at twilight telling me about how their boy friends suck, or that they want to hang out. All different and very good looking.

There are guys on this site getting ass every 2 hours, just so you know, not every one is "desperate." And I'm on this site because its fun, and kills time in between *****y clients.

Don't put yourself down that much.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
so if you ve never even seen this girl, how did you ask her about the bj? over the phone? online?

btw, if you haven't seen her in person and you think she s "chubby", chances are she s a fvcking whale
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Talking to the chubby girl on the phone, I learned I have a lot of work to do. My brother was listening to the phone call and said I sounded incredibly nervous at first and that I said "I dunno" repeatedly.
 

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Anyone can say that over a computer, Rhoto. Until I see the pictures with you in them, you're just another KJ.
 

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Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
WOW!...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That's the funny thing, I cold approched this 30 year old (HB9-10)...my first cold approach in over 6 years. I was admittedly nervous...but did a hell of a lot better than on the phone. She was walking by, overwhelmed by her shopping bags, so I smile at her and say "Hi" she says "Hi" I say "You look like your about to trip over yourself or your bags." She says "I'm shopping for an outfit...blah blah blah" and she gave me her myspace because she said she's on myspace more often than she's on the phone, and we've been talking. Still, because it's not progressing fast enough, I found that chubby girl and probably would have met her for a BJ today if she agreed.
 
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