"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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JackBauer24

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Talking to a pretty/chubby girl. Want her to go down on me. She says she only does sexual stuff if she's in a relationship. Doesn't even kiss on the first date most of the time. Wants a serious relationship. I told her straight out I'm not going to be her boyfriend just to get head. Has agreed to meet me, however, for a "date." She said that she thinks I'm cute, so that's obviously good.

1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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JackBauer24 said:
1.)Where do I take her, to make it clear that it's nothing fancy and I'm not her future boyfriend?

2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
If you bring her to a place where they serve alcohol you might kill two birds with one stone.
 

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DonGordon...thanks for your useless response.

DJDamage...she's a drinker...that's perfect, man. Thank you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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And getting one drunk to blow you...well that just doesn't speak well for you.
 

JackBauer24

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DonGordon...who cares about "social proof" if I'm going to some bar I never go to.

Rhoto...desperate times call for desperate measures. And if you were dating/f*cking a HB10, you wouldn't be on this site.
 

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I'm actually sleeping with 5 different women at the moment, and 2 that are angry at me for seeing other women, but still send me texts at twilight telling me about how their boy friends suck, or that they want to hang out. All different and very good looking.

There are guys on this site getting ass every 2 hours, just so you know, not every one is "desperate." And I'm on this site because its fun, and kills time in between *****y clients.

Don't put yourself down that much.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
2.)Is she likely to change her mind about the blow job once she sees me in person?
so if you ve never even seen this girl, how did you ask her about the bj? over the phone? online?

btw, if you haven't seen her in person and you think she s "chubby", chances are she s a fvcking whale
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Talking to the chubby girl on the phone, I learned I have a lot of work to do. My brother was listening to the phone call and said I sounded incredibly nervous at first and that I said "I dunno" repeatedly.
 

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Anyone can say that over a computer, Rhoto. Until I see the pictures with you in them, you're just another KJ.
 

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Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
 

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JackBauer24 said:
Rubbed one out and I feel better...for now. Masturbation is a stun-gun. The desperation goes away for ten minutes, until I'm on myspace again dirty talking another fat chick.

I probably wouldn't even notice the chubby girl in real life, but for some reason, when I'm at home, I'm resorting to all kinds of desperate tactics. See "Internet Compulsions" thread for a more in-depth explanation.
WOW!...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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That's the funny thing, I cold approched this 30 year old (HB9-10)...my first cold approach in over 6 years. I was admittedly nervous...but did a hell of a lot better than on the phone. She was walking by, overwhelmed by her shopping bags, so I smile at her and say "Hi" she says "Hi" I say "You look like your about to trip over yourself or your bags." She says "I'm shopping for an outfit...blah blah blah" and she gave me her myspace because she said she's on myspace more often than she's on the phone, and we've been talking. Still, because it's not progressing fast enough, I found that chubby girl and probably would have met her for a BJ today if she agreed.
 
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