"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Best way to know you had a failed date...

women haze

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You feel like **** afterwards.........
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yo'Mama

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What happened dude?

Failed date stories can be therapeutic for the poster and entertaining for the reader. Details!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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How about this:

She says, "you are the rudest person ever!" and storms off in the opposite direction. Yes, I let her walk away.

Yeah, I sometimes make mistakes when I'm really drunk on a bad date. In my defense, she started it by being a HUGE waste of my time but not showing it until the 2nd date. This justified me drinking too much and then telling her that i was going home without even offering to walk her back to her car or saying goodbye. I went straight to a house party.
 

Yo'Mama

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What Bible Belt failed to add is that she was eight years old :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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great thread. cant remember any of my bad dates right now. maybe i blocked them out of my memory. will add later, if i can recall.
 

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I was a noob, keep in mind.

Girl showed up, we hugged. Damn is she gorgeous.

I pretty much take her straight to my room and try to instantly to to watching a movie "cuddling." Needless to say she "couldn't stay" much longer. Didn't even realize how awkward I was until evaluating it later.

Somehow I did get a couple other dates after that one still though.
 

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I've had a few less than optimal dates.

1. We went to a restaurant. She said she had to go to the ladies room. She walked right out the front door and never came back.

2. At the end of the restaurant date, she asked where I parked. She then said I should go out this door (pointing) and then she was going out another door on the opposite side of the building.

3. At a bar date, she started talking to this other guy there. They started making out and left together right in front of me.
 

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Never been on a really bad date myself. The worst that's ever happened to me was girls texting other dudes. Needless to say they didn't get a second date.
 
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On my very first date at a Cinema watching Cars, I went to lean in to kiss her towards the end of the film and we bumped heads. It wasn't a hard bump, but it totally killed the mood and I never heard from her again. Haven't seen her since either.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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well, most for me have been when they show up and look nothing like their photos. My instant thought: "great...I gotta see this one through" not to be mean, I would not walk out unless they were rude.

Lately though, they've looked better than their photo's.

reminds me of the seinfeld when elaine blind dates a guy.

she sees him, asks if his name is so and so...he says yes....she shows a sign of huge relief. ha ha
 

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Mike32ct said:
I've had a few less than optimal dates.

1. We went to a restaurant. She said she had to go to the ladies room. She walked right out the front door and never came back.

2. At the end of the restaurant date, she asked where I parked. She then said I should go out this door (pointing) and then she was going out another door on the opposite side of the building.

3. At a bar date, she started talking to this other guy there. They started making out and left together right in front of me.
Wow dude, those were nasty rejections. How did you get over those?

My worst date occurred last September. Met some foreign HB8 journalist from Bulgaria on line. We established rapport for about two months through emails and some phone conversations.

Well anyway, she calls me and tells me that she will be in Washington DC for a week attending a foreign journalist convention and invited me to come for a couple of days to hang out and tour the city.

I spend about 500 in round trip tickets plus another 300.00 on a hotel. Needless to say we agree to meet at her hotel. When I finally meet her although she looked like her photos, her personality was horrible. She had the biggest bytch shield and almost immediately started to look at her watch every so often as to suggest that she had something to do.

Although we both tried to act polite it was instantly obvious that there was no mutual attraction/chemistry at all from the start.

We ended the meeting in about 30 minutes after a few drinks at a bar. I just got up, called a cab and went back to my hotel without even saying goodbye.

It was by far the worst and most expensive semi blind date Ive ever had.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I've had a few less than optimal dates.

1. We went to a restaurant. She said she had to go to the ladies room. She walked right out the front door and never came back.

2. At the end of the restaurant date, she asked where I parked. She then said I should go out this door (pointing) and then she was going out another door on the opposite side of the building.

3. At a bar date, she started talking to this other guy there. They started making out and left together right in front of me.
Wow dude, those were nasty rejections. How did you get over those?

My worst date occurred last September. Met some foreign HB8 journalist from Bulgaria on line. We established rapport for about two months through emails and some phone conversations.

Well anyway, she calls me and tells me that she will be in Washington DC for a week attending a foreign journalist convention and invited me to come for a couple of days to hang out and tour the city.

I spend about 500 in round trip tickets plus another 300.00 on a hotel. Needless to say we agree to meet at her hotel. When I finally meet her although she looked like her photos, her personality was horrible. She had the biggest bytch shield and almost immediately started to look at her watch every so often as to suggest that she had something to do.

Although we both tried to act polite it was instantly obvious that there was no mutual attraction/chemistry at all from the start.

We ended the meeting in about 30 minutes after a few drinks at a bar. I just got up, called a cab and went back to my hotel without even saying goodbye.

It was by far the worst and most expensive semi blind date Ive ever had.
 

gaspipe

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Mike32ct said:
I've had a few less than optimal dates.

1. We went to a restaurant. She said she had to go to the ladies room. She walked right out the front door and never came back.

2. At the end of the restaurant date, she asked where I parked. She then said I should go out this door (pointing) and then she was going out another door on the opposite side of the building.

3. At a bar date, she started talking to this other guy there. They started making out and left together right in front of me.
Wow dude, those were nasty rejections. How did you get over those?

My worst date occurred last September. Met some foreign HB8 journalist from Bulgaria on line. We established rapport for about two months through emails and some phone conversations.

Well anyway, she calls me and tells me that she will be in Washington DC for a week attending a foreign journalist convention and invited me to come for a couple of days to hang out and tour the city.

I spend about 500 in round trip tickets plus another 300.00 on a hotel. Needless to say we agree to meet at her hotel. When I finally meet her although she looked like her photos, her personality was horrible. She had the biggest bytch shield and almost immediately started to look at her watch every so often as to suggest that she had something to do.

Although we both tried to act polite it was instantly obvious that there was no mutual attraction/chemistry at all from the start.

We ended the meeting in about 30 minutes after a few drinks at a bar. I just got up, called a cab and went back to my hotel without even saying goodbye.

It was by far the worst and most expensive semi blind date Ive ever had.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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