Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
So if big pecs IS UGLY for men, then IS BIG PECS, good on women?newbie81 said:Best chest exercise:
heavy bench press
stretch pecs with db flies/low db press
don't only work pecs, big pecs is ugly for men, men need big shoulders & big necks, concentrate on overhead strength.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
idd, watch out for stretching, overdoing is bad.Warboss Alex said:the chest responds extremely (structurally) to stretching but it's easy to overdo if you're not careful.
newbie81 - I like your style. let the pecs stay on the pretty male fitness models, what we want are huge slab-like traps, shoulders like cannonballs and a back as thick as a brick wall. guys like that turn more heads than puffed up pecs do.
Yes I like women with big breasts.brucevangeorge said:So if big pecs IS UGLY for men, then IS BIG PECS, good on women?
Arnold IS HAD big pecs. IS UGLY?
No is no ugly.
You know.... b1tch tits are not pecs. Why wouldn't you want a nice muscular chest?newbie81 said:Yes I like women with big breasts.
Men should have big legs, big shoulders, big neck, wide back. Breasts is for women.
"Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas".
your body will allow this by making the chest bigger as well. you make this process easier by direct chest training but even if you didn't train chest I doubt your pecs would stay the same size as long as your squat and deadlifts were soaringAnd you do realize that you cannot have a big back without a chest that is proportinatelly as strong and large. You body will not allow it. IT will limit the size that the back can grow for safety reasons. To prevent injury.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
you can't compare biceps with chest. but working your back will make your biceps AND your chest grow.brucevangeorge said:Ok, so what you're saying is....
Extreme example:
If I go and I do heavy ass barbell curls, I'll get inhuman biceps? Including triceps? Without doing any other exercise to stimualte Tris?
The biceps potential size and strength will be limited by the size and stength of the triceps. Have you seen a guy with huge Bis but no Tris? Not likely.
Same goes for chest and back. They are antagonistic and if you have antagonistic muscles overpower each other....
Warboss Alex said:you can't compare biceps with chest. but working your back will make your biceps AND your chest grow.
but hell, you're 19 and know everything, right?![]()
yeah but .. oh, have it your way.brucevangeorge said:I don't know everything and I pray I never will, but I was simply comparing biceps to chest because of the relation between the antagonistic muscles.
Chest, back. Bis, Tris.
Hmm, good point.Warboss Alex said:yeah but .. oh, have it your way.
I've never seen a heavy squatter with a small chest though!