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Tell you what though. Women LOVE it when you're easy going, and just be cool and focus on YOUR life. not on her.
And the more you are focused on your life, the less you care when women love it and when they don't LOL
 
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This. It all comes down to INCENTIVES—the only way to ever truly know a girl’s character is if she has nothing to lose by revealing it to you or nothing to gain by selling you a front.

If some of the guys here heard the kind of things women tell me (and especially the sort of glee with which they tell it), it would break their sense of reality. One of my closest friends is convinced that I just happen to run into the biggest wh0res over and over and over—but none of them start out that way & none of them would be that way for him or any guy who they could benefit from an association with if they pretended to be a ‘good girl.’

You can push just about as far down the rabbit hole as you like, and it gets pretty weird, but there’s something refreshing about connecting with someone on a more genuine level than they can usually express, the sex is unreal & I do meet some really good ones (but it’s rare).
What kind of stuff do they do?
 

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What kind of stuff do they do?
The kind of stuff they do isn't all that shocking--threesomes, cheating, playing men, kinks, etc.--more the type of girl who does that kind of stuff and the way they talk about it. A lot of these are girls with super convincing & persistent 'good girl' fronts. The type of girls 'who would never do something like that'--who veer so close to the male fantasy that most men willingly buy that front & getting past that front requires extreme frame control & blind confidence since she doesn't outwardly project any 'slut tells' whatsoever.

And couple of examples I've encountered--not all that shocking now since I've seen all of them multiple times but a lot of which were the first time I ran into them:
  • Two different girls who spend a couple hours talking about how much they love their boyfriend & then follow me into the bathroom
  • A super introverted, studious innocent looking girl who I met on her 21st bday and went back to her apartment--has a boyfriend, Facetimes another guy who's planning to move cross country to buy a house together, tells me how much she loves me
  • Another very similar girl who in her first few semesters of college dated the fvckboy of fvckboys
  • Girls bragging about how they break men's hearts & gleefully telling me about various pathetic behavior after they went cold
  • Girls who admit they don't feel anything toward any man
  • Girls bragging about how their S/O does this, that & the other & how totally oblivious or sexually impotent they are
  • Girls who have sugared, want to sugar, etc
  • Girls who tell me they could never do X, Y, & Z with so-and-so since they really like him and wouldn't want him to think about her that way
  • Girls who like it really, really rough--past the point I'm comfortable with (and I'm probably a lot more comfortable being a lot more rougher than 99% of guys). Like knives and blood and sh1t lol
  • A handful of girls have bragged about dating drug dealers in the past, etc.
Again, nothing all that shocking--but the consistency & the types of girls who exhibit this behavior is too far past what most guys could even imagine coming from these same girls.
 

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The kind of stuff they do isn't all that shocking--threesomes, cheating, playing men, kinks, etc.--more the type of girl who does that kind of stuff and the way they talk about it. A lot of these are girls with super convincing & persistent 'good girl' fronts. The type of girls 'who would never do something like that'--who veer so close to the male fantasy that most men willingly buy that front & getting past that front requires extreme frame control & blind confidence since she doesn't outwardly project any 'slut tells' whatsoever.

And couple of examples I've encountered--not all that shocking now since I've seen all of them multiple times but a lot of which were the first time I ran into them:
  • Two different girls who spend a couple hours talking about how much they love their boyfriend & then follow me into the bathroom
  • A super introverted, studious innocent looking girl who I met on her 21st bday and went back to her apartment--has a boyfriend, Facetimes another guy who's planning to move cross country to buy a house together, tells me how much she loves me
  • Another very similar girl who in her first few semesters of college dated the fvckboy of fvckboys
  • Girls bragging about how they break men's hearts & gleefully telling me about various pathetic behavior after they went cold
  • Girls who admit they don't feel anything toward any man
  • Girls bragging about how their S/O does this, that & the other & how totally oblivious or sexually impotent they are
  • Girls who have sugared, want to sugar, etc
  • Girls who tell me they could never do X, Y, & Z with so-and-so since they really like him and wouldn't want him to think about her that way
  • Girls who like it really, really rough--past the point I'm comfortable with (and I'm probably a lot more comfortable being a lot more rougher than 99% of guys). Like knives and blood and sh1t lol
  • A handful of girls have bragged about dating drug dealers in the past, etc.
Again, nothing all that shocking--but the consistency & the types of girls who exhibit this behavior is too far past what most guys could even imagine coming from these same girls.
This stuff makes you afraid of the dark.

Like you said it isn't what they do. It's that they can tell you how much they "love" you while hiding who they actually are from you, how they truly feel about you, and getting off on how dishonest they can be. Lying to you is exciting, it turns them on. How the fvck can you know who to trust?

IME, there are two ways to find out who a woman really is:

1) Wait until she no longer needs you or a 3rd party/circumstance reveals her real character to you (this is what cucks end up doing).

2) Play dumber than you really are and combine it with a rebellious, nonchalant, encouraging, accepting attitude about sexuality. Imagine yourself as being the guy she's cheating on her husband with, and ask yourself what kind of persona you'd take on if she knew that you "know her". You'll find out if she has any standards, what they are, and because of your portrayed naivety and encouraging acceptance she will let things slip over time as she opens up to you.
 
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The kind of stuff they do isn't all that shocking--threesomes, cheating, playing men, kinks, etc.--more the type of girl who does that kind of stuff and the way they talk about it. A lot of these are girls with super convincing & persistent 'good girl' fronts. The type of girls 'who would never do something like that'--who veer so close to the male fantasy that most men willingly buy that front & getting past that front requires extreme frame control & blind confidence since she doesn't outwardly project any 'slut tells' whatsoever.

And couple of examples I've encountered--not all that shocking now since I've seen all of them multiple times but a lot of which were the first time I ran into them:
  • Two different girls who spend a couple hours talking about how much they love their boyfriend & then follow me into the bathroom
  • A super introverted, studious innocent looking girl who I met on her 21st bday and went back to her apartment--has a boyfriend, Facetimes another guy who's planning to move cross country to buy a house together, tells me how much she loves me
  • Another very similar girl who in her first few semesters of college dated the fvckboy of fvckboys
  • Girls bragging about how they break men's hearts & gleefully telling me about various pathetic behavior after they went cold
  • Girls who admit they don't feel anything toward any man
  • Girls bragging about how their S/O does this, that & the other & how totally oblivious or sexually impotent they are
  • Girls who have sugared, want to sugar, etc
  • Girls who tell me they could never do X, Y, & Z with so-and-so since they really like him and wouldn't want him to think about her that way
  • Girls who like it really, really rough--past the point I'm comfortable with (and I'm probably a lot more comfortable being a lot more rougher than 99% of guys). Like knives and blood and sh1t lol
  • A handful of girls have bragged about dating drug dealers in the past, etc.
Again, nothing all that shocking--but the consistency & the types of girls who exhibit this behavior is too far past what most guys could even imagine coming from these same girls.
What makes them see you as special enough to not play all those games with?
 

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Yes you can not trust these hoes, you don't want to know either. Never ask the questions you don't want the answer of.

I hooked up with one girl on Tinder while I was at her apartment her boyfriend called, she answered and she was baby this, I love you that, I miss you hope to see you soon. And as soon as she hung up she started sucking my dck. She made fun of him and gleefully told me she once cheated on him with 2 strangers for a threesome.

A Colombian girl I know (The room mate of a close friend who complains about her all the time), fvcks literally a different guy every other day it is insane. She has guys taking her on holidays, buying her roses, planning a family together, she lies lies lies, some of them think they are the boyfirned and put her on a pedestal, but apparently at night she cries for her scumbag ex who was banging a trillion other girls and dumped her and didn't give a sht, she even secretly put a tracking app on his phone and she stalks him obsessively all the time, meanwhile is banging 4 new guys a week without care.

The lesson learnt is, don't be the guy who puts them on pedestals and takes them on holidays, be the scumbag cheating guy who tells them to fvck off and then disappears.
 

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Probably his straightforwardness, lack of shame, calmness, charm.
That, combined with:

This stuff makes you afraid of the dark.
2) Play dumber than you really are and combine it with a rebellious, nonchalant, encouraging, accepting attitude about sexuality. Imagine yourself as being the guy she's cheating on her husband with, and ask yourself what kind of persona you'd take on if she knew that you "know her". You'll find out if she has any standards, what they are, and because of your portrayed naivety and encouraging acceptance she will let things slip over time as she opens up to you.
and disqualifying myself as ever being a provider (no incentives to lie), disqualifying her for being too innocent (active non-judgmentalism), passing sh1t tests (i.e. I'm not that type of girl OR You just want me for sex) & just overall indifference.

All of these are things you can fake, but at this point I don't need to & it's abundantly clear throughout the entire interaction that I've seen this before and nothing really shakes me & nothing she can say or do will alter my reality.

A couple quick fixes are stock phrases like, "This'll never work, you're way too innocent for me" or "I bet all these guys think you're such a little good girl. You're totally not" or "You're so full of sh1t"--all delivered playfully. OR "It must be sh1tty being a girl...everyone makes sex into such a huge deal, etc. etc." You can work these in anywhere in the conversation--whether they make sense logically or not. But the important things are your subcomms: Are you congruent to actually being the chill, nonjudgmental dude who just wants a good time? Does your voice change when you try to talk about sex? Do your eyebrows move? Do your eyes widen or tighten up? Do you start looking at her differently? Etc., etc. I've always had a good poker face, which helps; had to practice the other stuff when I was a more judgmental person overall.
 
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This is why im so glad every relationship I've had i basically leached off of them and never spent money on them. But if they were good girls this would be a sh1tty thing to do.

Most women I've been with have dumped money on me and into the relationship and in the end had nothing to show for it. But i don't think i really have game per say. Im generally pretty honest about my past. I had intentions to get myself together and made promises and tried but after they start giving me everything, sharing everything i end up taking advantage (never planned to just kind of happened) and end up drinking and sometimes doing drugs.

Litterally I'll be driving their car like it's mine, money, they do my laundry, cook (unless they're very busy with work or school, I can cook for myself), sex on demand. Sometimes ill just lose my job or quit because I don't like authority and they'll cover my part of the rent, buy food, ect.

But when they see you're not falling in line they get very mad, slowly.

I guess i just act like this, I don't plan it or think about it. I really don't think i have that much game to be honest, they just really liked me and i could act however I wanted.
Were any of them hot?
 

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I couldn't care about their rotation.

Care about getting laid instead.

All attractive (even plain) girls have loads of options. But most tend to have sex with just one, whilst keeping everyone else in a holding pattern. That's the guy she goes to watch Bridget Jones' baby with when you are "busy", so don't knock it.
Or the actual guy who thinks it’s his baby, but it’s really another mans, yet he can’t see the irony while sitting in the movie theater
 

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This. It all comes down to INCENTIVES—the only way to ever truly know a girl’s character is if she has nothing to lose by revealing it to you or nothing to gain by selling you a front.

If some of the guys here heard the kind of things women tell me (and especially the sort of glee with which they tell it), it would break their sense of reality. One of my closest friends is convinced that I just happen to run into the biggest wh0res over and over and over—but none of them start out that way & none of them would be that way for him or any guy who they could benefit from an association with if they pretended to be a ‘good girl.’

You can push just about as far down the rabbit hole as you like, and it gets pretty weird, but there’s something refreshing about connecting with someone on a more genuine level than they can usually express, the sex is unreal & I do meet some really good ones (but it’s rare).
Ooh details. I’ve heard some pretty raunchy stuff from chicks
 

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The kind of stuff they do isn't all that shocking--threesomes, cheating, playing men, kinks, etc.--more the type of girl who does that kind of stuff and the way they talk about it. A lot of these are girls with super convincing & persistent 'good girl' fronts. The type of girls 'who would never do something like that'--who veer so close to the male fantasy that most men willingly buy that front & getting past that front requires extreme frame control & blind confidence since she doesn't outwardly project any 'slut tells' whatsoever.

And couple of examples I've encountered--not all that shocking now since I've seen all of them multiple times but a lot of which were the first time I ran into them:
  • Two different girls who spend a couple hours talking about how much they love their boyfriend & then follow me into the bathroom
  • A super introverted, studious innocent looking girl who I met on her 21st bday and went back to her apartment--has a boyfriend, Facetimes another guy who's planning to move cross country to buy a house together, tells me how much she loves me
  • Another very similar girl who in her first few semesters of college dated the fvckboy of fvckboys
  • Girls bragging about how they break men's hearts & gleefully telling me about various pathetic behavior after they went cold
  • Girls who admit they don't feel anything toward any man
  • Girls bragging about how their S/O does this, that & the other & how totally oblivious or sexually impotent they are
  • Girls who have sugared, want to sugar, etc
  • Girls who tell me they could never do X, Y, & Z with so-and-so since they really like him and wouldn't want him to think about her that way
  • Girls who like it really, really rough--past the point I'm comfortable with (and I'm probably a lot more comfortable being a lot more rougher than 99% of guys). Like knives and blood and sh1t lol
  • A handful of girls have bragged about dating drug dealers in the past, etc.
Again, nothing all that shocking--but the consistency & the types of girls who exhibit this behavior is too far past what most guys could even imagine coming from these same girls.
I was at a bar 3 nights in a row. Chatted up this super hot chick. It was like it was almost too easy and she asked me to comeback. Something wasn’t right and I bailed. I thought she was a hooker, but she was with friends and a college bar. So she chats up another guy and leaves with him. Next night same thing except another dude, Saturday night she left with two dudes. You want to see a slut in the death throes of not being able to get off the carousel. I’ve never seen anything like it.
 

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I was at a bar 3 nights in a row. Chatted up this super hot chick. It was like it was almost too easy and she asked me to comeback. Something wasn’t right and I bailed. I thought she was a hooker, but she was with friends and a college bar. So she chats up another guy and leaves with him. Next night same thing except another dude, Saturday night she left with two dudes. You want to see a slut in the death throes of not being able to get off the carousel. I’ve never seen anything like it.
I would’ve been skeptical too but unless you pull super hot chicks regularly, I doubt you could just pass it up so easily.
 

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I would’ve been skeptical too but unless you pull super hot chicks regularly, I doubt you could just pass it up so easily.
I’ve had my share of chicks. I wanted to think with my other head, but something was off. She was into me right away, laughed at every joke. Like she was making it too easy. I talked with her maybe 15 minutes and she was ready to go back to her place. Something was just off man. Call it gut feeling
 
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I’ve had my share of chicks. I wanted to think with my other head, but something was off. She was into me right away, laughed at every joke. Like she was making it too easy. I talked with her maybe 15 minutes and she was ready to go back to her place. Something was just off man. Call it gut feeling
Tranny or get robbed?
 

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This is why im so glad every relationship I've had i basically leached off of them and never spent money on them. But if they were good girls this would be a sh1tty thing to do.

Most women I've been with have dumped money on me and into the relationship and in the end had nothing to show for it. But i don't think i really have game per say. Im generally pretty honest about my past. I had intentions to get myself together and made promises and tried but after they start giving me everything, sharing everything i end up taking advantage (never planned to just kind of happened) and end up drinking and sometimes doing drugs.

Litterally I'll be driving their car like it's mine, money, they do my laundry, cook (unless they're very busy with work or school, I can cook for myself), sex on demand. Sometimes ill just lose my job or quit because I don't like authority and they'll cover my part of the rent, buy food, ect.

But when they see you're not falling in line they get very mad, slowly.

I guess i just act like this, I don't plan it or think about it. I really don't think i have that much game to be honest, they just really liked me and i could act however I wanted.
So basically you advocate being a loser? No thanks I'll pass.
 

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It's a rejection for exclusivity, so it will bruise the ego especially if you like her. It's the beginning of the end.

I can also tell you it's a dangerous position to be in because from that moment forward you will be over investing in her, and she will use tricks to try to maintain your level of investment if she feels it slacking off.
How does it differ from meeting a prostitute? Like honestly?

She still requires you to date her (meaning you drop coin for her) and she is phucking behind your back and other guys use their money to get her time as well.

@Guys saying "it's ok" - spare me "it's not for money/it's different" talk guys, even if you will get whole night of phucking after taking her for dinner or party, it's still huge waste of time IMO. Accepting sluttyness in woman enables sluttyness.

If you are just funphucking her behind back of her guy it's sort of ok but still waste of time. If you thought she is STR or even LTR material, she should be dropped ASAP as it will be like precision shooting session for your ego.
 
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