"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Before Sosuave and After Sosuave - Where do you stand?

Cheat_LBJ

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I've gotten much more comfortable talking with women. The bad news is, they still don't find me at all attractive.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Climax

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Originally posted by Cheat_LBJ
Before: 1
After: 3

I've gotten much more comfortable talking with women. The bad news is, they still don't find me at all attractive.
Well then thats what u need to work on next... GO GET SOME STYLE;) :up:


Laterz...
 

Cheat_LBJ

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Originally posted by ~ªêQµïTª$~
Well then thats what u need to work on next... GO GET SOME STYLE;) :up:


Laterz...
As tall as I am, the only kinda style that's gonna do me any good is an NBA Contract, and not even the Clippers are bad enough to need me. ;)

Other than that, I'm at a loss as to how to make myself seem more "normal."
 

Climax

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Here's an idea...

Originally posted by Cheat_LBJ
As tall as I am, the only kinda style that's gonna do me any good is an NBA Contract, and not even the Clippers are bad enough to need me. ;)

Other than that, I'm at a loss as to how to make myself seem more "normal."
How about u post a pic of urself and get feedback/suggestions?;)


Laterz...
 

Bonhomme

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Not entirely relevant, because I'd already learned a lot before starting to post here, but are just now starting to really internalize it.

Then: varying wildly from about 1 to 9; averaging about 4, only rarely at 8 or 9.

Now: more consistently from about 5 to 8, occasionally 9, usually about 6, rarely below 5.

I'd need cosmetic surgery to hit 10.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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lebRambo

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before, probably a 3.

now, probably a 7. Still got a long way to go! :D
 

Life-Trainee

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In regards to women:
Before: 0
Now: 3

This site made me conscious of Other problems I have. I did improve in other areas by the way I dress, carry myself, relate to people.

My confidence even though flaky is more than it was before with people in general. I've still a long way to go.

Confidence is something that is not unilateral unfortunately. It's entirely context-based. So i've a long way to go with attaining the confidence I want with women.
 

h2o

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before: -3
now: 6.5

it all depends though...but before this site, i was horrid with women...i mean...sometimes i can't believe how much i've changed, it's unbelievable
 

Egoist

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Not sure yet..

i've always been relatively good with women, but always in LTRs, recently single, and just discovered the game recently.

I got into it through evolutionary psychology/NLP kinda stuff though..

DJ/Alpha/real man thing really makes sense after reading most of those books (well the evolutionary psych stuff)

anyways, I am still a work in progress.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Blackdragon5095

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Before: -3
After: 6

I still got much more but I'm noticing how girls want to talk to me. And be around me.
 

Dysfunctional

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Before: 3 - I really sucked

Now: 5 - I don't suck as hard :) I joined about a week ago and I've gotten a date with a kiss since. Soon to be more dates and more kisses and some "hubba-hubba". :cool:
 

PRMoon

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I was at about a 8 when I started out here and i'm at about an 8.5 now i guess i'd say if I have to use numbers.
I've proven myself countless times to the masses in the past and I continue to do so now. I'm not perfect nor will I ever be but I do know I've reached a level of indifferance when it comes to picking up women. Do or die...it's all the same to me.

note: That extra half point should be compared to the comission an loan officer gets for a home loan...yeah it's that substantial.
 

thefonz

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Before One-Itis : 8

After Onetis: 2

After Sosuave (But still fluctuating): 5-7

It's gone down since before my onetis because I'm still working on training myself on not getting overly attached to girls. Although I used to be good with women it was only cus I knew I had at least one woman who I was infatuated with that I could fall back on which made me feel invincible when hitting on other women.......Now I realize how dangerous that is and I'm trying to be able to feel comfortable knowing that I don't need that 'special someone' to make my game tight. I'm trying to learn total self-reliance and it ain't easy but I've been working at it for about a year
 

Sargeholic

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Before: 6
Now: 7.5

Before I was a semi-natural with massive approach anxiety (in other words, I managed about a dozen lays in about a year of single time that was spread between a couple LTRs). Pretty much all were initiated by the girl or were drunken fools mate. I then had a 3+ year LTR with a HB8 who I came thisclose to marrying.

Now I am in the field, overcoming approach anxiety, and doors are opening. I have six solid lays and about a dozen dates since coming to here/ASF in July. Even in the last two weeks I have made huge strides.

Next step is to eradicate approach anxiety completely and start being consistent with girls who are 8+ in rating.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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S-lemond

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u think im kiding......
 

spider_007

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after - 6(that number might be a bit different if i actually went in the field)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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