"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Before Sosuave and After Sosuave - Where do you stand?

Cheat_LBJ

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Before: 1
After: 3

I've gotten much more comfortable talking with women. The bad news is, they still don't find me at all attractive.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Climax

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Originally posted by Cheat_LBJ
Before: 1
After: 3

I've gotten much more comfortable talking with women. The bad news is, they still don't find me at all attractive.
Well then thats what u need to work on next... GO GET SOME STYLE;) :up:


Laterz...
 

Cheat_LBJ

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Originally posted by ~ªêQµïTª$~
Well then thats what u need to work on next... GO GET SOME STYLE;) :up:


Laterz...
As tall as I am, the only kinda style that's gonna do me any good is an NBA Contract, and not even the Clippers are bad enough to need me. ;)

Other than that, I'm at a loss as to how to make myself seem more "normal."
 

Climax

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Here's an idea...

Originally posted by Cheat_LBJ
As tall as I am, the only kinda style that's gonna do me any good is an NBA Contract, and not even the Clippers are bad enough to need me. ;)

Other than that, I'm at a loss as to how to make myself seem more "normal."
How about u post a pic of urself and get feedback/suggestions?;)


Laterz...
 

Bonhomme

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Not entirely relevant, because I'd already learned a lot before starting to post here, but are just now starting to really internalize it.

Then: varying wildly from about 1 to 9; averaging about 4, only rarely at 8 or 9.

Now: more consistently from about 5 to 8, occasionally 9, usually about 6, rarely below 5.

I'd need cosmetic surgery to hit 10.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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lebRambo

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before, probably a 3.

now, probably a 7. Still got a long way to go! :D
 

Life-Trainee

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In regards to women:
Before: 0
Now: 3

This site made me conscious of Other problems I have. I did improve in other areas by the way I dress, carry myself, relate to people.

My confidence even though flaky is more than it was before with people in general. I've still a long way to go.

Confidence is something that is not unilateral unfortunately. It's entirely context-based. So i've a long way to go with attaining the confidence I want with women.
 

h2o

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welcome to my world
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before: -3
now: 6.5

it all depends though...but before this site, i was horrid with women...i mean...sometimes i can't believe how much i've changed, it's unbelievable
 

Egoist

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Not sure yet..

i've always been relatively good with women, but always in LTRs, recently single, and just discovered the game recently.

I got into it through evolutionary psychology/NLP kinda stuff though..

DJ/Alpha/real man thing really makes sense after reading most of those books (well the evolutionary psych stuff)

anyways, I am still a work in progress.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Blackdragon5095

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Before: -3
After: 6

I still got much more but I'm noticing how girls want to talk to me. And be around me.
 

Dysfunctional

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Before: 3 - I really sucked

Now: 5 - I don't suck as hard :) I joined about a week ago and I've gotten a date with a kiss since. Soon to be more dates and more kisses and some "hubba-hubba". :cool:
 

PRMoon

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I was at about a 8 when I started out here and i'm at about an 8.5 now i guess i'd say if I have to use numbers.
I've proven myself countless times to the masses in the past and I continue to do so now. I'm not perfect nor will I ever be but I do know I've reached a level of indifferance when it comes to picking up women. Do or die...it's all the same to me.

note: That extra half point should be compared to the comission an loan officer gets for a home loan...yeah it's that substantial.
 

thefonz

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Before One-Itis : 8

After Onetis: 2

After Sosuave (But still fluctuating): 5-7

It's gone down since before my onetis because I'm still working on training myself on not getting overly attached to girls. Although I used to be good with women it was only cus I knew I had at least one woman who I was infatuated with that I could fall back on which made me feel invincible when hitting on other women.......Now I realize how dangerous that is and I'm trying to be able to feel comfortable knowing that I don't need that 'special someone' to make my game tight. I'm trying to learn total self-reliance and it ain't easy but I've been working at it for about a year
 

Sargeholic

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Before: 6
Now: 7.5

Before I was a semi-natural with massive approach anxiety (in other words, I managed about a dozen lays in about a year of single time that was spread between a couple LTRs). Pretty much all were initiated by the girl or were drunken fools mate. I then had a 3+ year LTR with a HB8 who I came thisclose to marrying.

Now I am in the field, overcoming approach anxiety, and doors are opening. I have six solid lays and about a dozen dates since coming to here/ASF in July. Even in the last two weeks I have made huge strides.

Next step is to eradicate approach anxiety completely and start being consistent with girls who are 8+ in rating.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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S-lemond

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u think im kiding......
 

spider_007

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before -3
after - 6(that number might be a bit different if i actually went in the field)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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